The 2010 e23 Releases and Speculation Thread

[Taliesin]

Thank you. I like knowing a little about future releases to help me plan my purchases.

[jalapeno_dude]

Pyramid #3/20 was released today, as expected. With luck we'll get a second new release next week.

Not a whole lot of other news to report, except that it looks like Tactical Shooting is moving forward, as are some new THS projects, which means Cities on the Edge could reappear...

[lachimba]

Originally Posted by jalapeno_dude

June 24th: GURPS Spaceships 8: Transhuman Spacecraft

Out as expected

[jalapeno_dude]

Originally Posted by lachimba

Out as expected

Yep, got it on my second try. It also looks like the old Space Gamer issues are being scanned and uploaded several times a week.

In other news, Crusades and Tactical Shooting have entered the final review process and Transhuman Mysteries is now being edited.

[Steven Marsh]

Originally Posted by jalapeno_dude

Yep, got it on my second try. It also looks like the old Space Gamer issues are being scanned and uploaded several times a week.

Actually, those'll be piggybacking onto the usual Thursday release(s); the Tuesday release of Space Gamer was just to get the ball rolling . . . and it coincidentally provides an "extra" issue of Space Gamer leading into the break.

Originally Posted by jalapeno_dude

In other news, Crusades and Tactical Shooting have entered the final review process and Transhuman Mysteries is now being edited.

Whoa! I'm not sure where you got your information above, but there's at least one significant factual mistake here.

[lachimba]

Originally Posted by Steven Marsh

Actually, those'll be piggybacking onto the usual Thursday release(s); the Tuesday release of Space Gamer was just to get the ball rolling . . . and it coincidentally provides an "extra" issue of Space Gamer leading into the break.



Whoa! I'm not sure where you got your information above, but there's at least one significant factual mistake here.

The Kromm LJ post just said that a final draft of TS had been submitted.

EDIT:
Nothing about a final review

http://dr-kromm.livejournal.com/71110.html

[jalapeno_dude]

Originally Posted by Steven Marsh

Actually, those'll be piggybacking onto the usual Thursday release(s); the Tuesday release of Space Gamer was just to get the ball rolling . . . and it coincidentally provides an "extra" issue of Space Gamer leading into the break.

Got it. Will add to opening posts.

Originally Posted by Steven Marsh

Whoa! I'm not sure where you got your information above, but there's at least one significant factual mistake here.

From Kromm:
"GURPS Crusades, by Eugene Moyers, is now in near-final PDF form for review."
"The final draft of GURPS Tactical Shooting, by Hans-Christian Vortisch, is now in our hands. PK is the editor."

From Phil Masters:
"Oh yeah - Transhuman Mysteries is now in editing."

Is one of those statements incorrect? Or does having the final draft != in final review?

[Daeglan]

how long does final review take?

[SCAR]

Originally Posted by jalapeno_dude

Yep, got it on my second try. It also looks like the old Space Gamer issues are being scanned and uploaded several times a week.

Good call - I would have put DF11 or Plant Magic for yesterday!

Originally Posted by Steven Marsh

Whoa! I'm not sure where you got your information above, but there's at least one significant factual mistake here.

Originally Posted by jalapeno_dude

From Kromm:
"GURPS Crusades, by Eugene Moyers, is now in near-final PDF form for review."
"The final draft of GURPS Tactical Shooting, by Hans-Christian Vortisch, is now in our hands. PK is the editor."

From Phil Masters:
"Oh yeah - Transhuman Mysteries is now in editing."

Is one of those statements incorrect? Or does having the final draft != in final review?

Personal Blogs are great for us fans, but that aren't official announcements (as Kromm has said), and we cannot take something said on them as gospel. (Although they are probably as close to the truth as we really need!)

I suspect that 'mistake' is with Tactical Shooting, there is a big difference between 'Final Draft, Editing' and 'Final Review Process'.

[Steven Marsh]

Originally Posted by SCAR

[T]here is a big difference between 'Final Draft, Editing' and 'Final Review Process'.

Indeed... once the final draft is submitted, it needs to be reviewed, then edited. Once it's edited, it needs to be laid out as a final PDF. (At some point there, we need to get art as well.) Then that PDF needs to be reviewed as well, both for any problems relating to the layout and to allow for a fresh set of eyes for the GURPS reviewers to work their mojo; this is what most of us think of as the "final review process." (Once it's passed this final review process, there's actually another review process -- this is the equivalent of checking bluelines on a print product.)

The brief glimpse above into a document's life after its final draft is submitted is, in fact, one of the reasons I don't participate too much in speculation about when supplements will be released; any of the steps above can (and have!) result in a project being delayed, and there is no set period between "final draft submitted" and "final PDF is ready to upload once we click the button." I've honestly seen that process take a couple of weeks (rarely), but I've also seen it take years (rarely as well -- thankfully!). I'd much rather you all be pleasantly surprised when an unknown-but-interesting project makes its glorious debut, instead of wondering about why an anticipated project seems like it's in limbo.

(Having said that, I know that it can be fun as a fan to speculate about what's coming up -- but I'm also giving you a glimpse into the e23 Manager's mindset, and why I'm usually mum about most projects.)

I now leave you to your regularly scheduled speculation, already in progress. :-)