06-09-2021, 06:28 AM | #1 |
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Need to Hover to Cast?
Just checking that I'm right on this. If you have Flight with Cannot Hover, that means that while flying you can't cast spells (or do anything else that limits your movement to a 'Step'), correct?
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06-09-2021, 07:08 AM | #2 |
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Ronkonkoma, NY
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Re: Need to Hover to Cast?
You can cast spells as long as you can take a Concentrate maneuver. That's not usually possible while flying with Flight (Cannot Hover), but if you wanted to you could let yourself fall for a turn while Concentrating. Recovery from the fall might be an issue (see page B398).
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06-09-2021, 08:19 AM | #3 |
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Panama
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Re: Need to Hover to Cast?
If you can fly without concentration you may concentrate while flying in a straight line, no need to fall.
The same goes for driving a car or other vehicle. I think somewhere in the book there is an equivalent step maneuver or concentrate maneuver whe you are moving at high speed or while controlling a vehicle. If you need concentration to keep flying it may be different though. Edit, I read the B398, yes... under your own power cannot hover restrict movement to 1/4 minimum and cannot step. Stromcrow is on point. Last edited by Rolando; 06-09-2021 at 08:25 AM. Reason: checking the rules after writing about a rule |
06-09-2021, 09:59 AM | #4 | |
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Re: Need to Hover to Cast?
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06-09-2021, 10:11 AM | #5 |
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Location: Shoreline, WA (north of Seattle)
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06-09-2021, 12:06 PM | #6 |
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Panama
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Re: Need to Hover to Cast?
this got me thinking, is there a way to make "no hover" flight to not need concentration, somehow kind of not self powered flight, like with a gadget for example?
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06-09-2021, 12:34 PM | #7 |
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Re: Need to Hover to Cast?
I saw a modifier somewhere that allowed flyers to stay in flight indefinitely, including sleeping while flying. I think it was for a species of aliens. I can't find it right now, though. Might have been in a Pyramid article, but wasn't in the ones I checked...
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06-09-2021, 12:47 PM | #8 |
Join Date: Dec 2020
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Re: Need to Hover to Cast?
Do we speak about flying by natural means or do we speak about flying by magic ?
If flying is your natural way of moving from one point to the the other like a bird, I would say no penalities and most surely no freefall! Iīve seen birds do a lot of things some really complicated while flying around, like picking a snail out of itīs shell. If we speak about magic, and you canīt hover, I would say again no problem you just have to maintain another spell while concentrating and take the penality for this, you just shouldnīt roll a failure because than your GM can say your flight spell fizzles. |
06-09-2021, 01:09 PM | #9 | |
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Of course, the ultimate effect (as you can't combine the movement from this maneuver with other movement) is that you are, roughly speaking, upgrading to always have the benefits (without the cost) of Heroic Charge for Move and Attack, expanding this to allow things like Move and Concentrate(/Ready/Aim/Whatever), and boosting the movement rate of All Out Attack and All Out Defense... but only while using Flight. A Technique that lets you do Move and Attack without penalty costs around [7] ([1] for Unique Technique, and it's a Hard Technique defaulting to Prerequisite-5, for [6]). It's getting a Wildcard treatment, boosting cost to around [21], but it has Only While Using Flight -10%, dropping that to [19]. [20] works alright there (note this implies Move Only, Overrides Movement from other Maneuver, and Only While Using Flight would altogether be worth -80% on ATR, which doesn't sound outlandish), so calling it overall a +50% Enhancement on Flight would probably be alright.
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06-09-2021, 02:39 PM | #10 |
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Re: Need to Hover to Cast?
It's a little old - Pyramid Vol. 3/ 06. The Soaring enhancement, pretty cheap for what it gives.
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