01-25-2020, 07:05 AM | #31 |
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Re: Alchemy in a no mana world
Earthquake is the domain of Poseidon, and I think he would notice if his brother wrecked one of his temples.
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01-25-2020, 08:02 AM | #32 | ||
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I should mention that Sanctity based Alchemy item could come out of Temples to Hermes Trismegistus. They would likely be just below Objects of Power generating a very limited normal Sanctity aura (just enough for the elixir to work)
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01-25-2020, 09:33 AM | #33 |
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Well, other religions would have other deities, depending on their native alchemical tradition. It could be that every alchemical potion is associated with a specific deity (or every alchemical Path if using an alchemical version of RPM), so alchemical potions would have different sanctity. In any case, sanctity-based alchemy would be effective in no mana worlds.
An interesting idea would be having sanctity-based alchemical RPM (Alchemy being the core skill) and sanctity-based herbal RPM (Herb Lore being the core skill). In the former case, urban areas would be high sanctity and wilderness areas would be low sanctity. In the latter case, wilderness areas would be high sanity and urban areas would be low sanctity. |
01-25-2020, 11:52 AM | #34 | |
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We can certainly see that in modern ecumenical movements, where it is quite possible for church leaderships to decide that yeah we killed each other over this stuff before, but it turns out that the "differences" were two ways of saying the same thing, or that we're now sure they are adiphoral and God is happy with either one. OK you can't quite come out and say that exactly (usually anyway) but the weasel worded legalese basically comes down to one of those two.
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01-25-2020, 12:49 PM | #35 |
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Based on a false premise anyway. Merely destroying a temple's would not deconsecrate it. It would have be ritually deconsecrated or majorly defiled. For example if someone were to say, have sex with a priestess of Athena on the altar of her temple that would mean the temple would have to be reconsecrated.
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It feels like if you knocked down a temple and there weren't even ruins left that it should gradually fade. Though maybe that's because worshippers stop coming or gods withdraw power? I guess part of the problem is I want to think of gods as being statted characters (albeit with cosmic abilities) and doing things like "Affliction: Sanctity" to bless areas. |
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01-25-2020, 01:03 PM | #37 |
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I guess it really depends on whether your gods are beings that consciously affect the world, or worldly affects that also have some localized identifiable forms.
Is Aphrodite merely a god with powers over love or Love itself given a humanoid form? That kind of thing may matter for these types of questions of sanctity, I think.
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If you follow Dragon #101's "For King and Country" premise of deities being not only being empowered but shaped by their worshippers to its logical conclusion then schisming becomes a really big deal. In fact, the first Christian Bible (by Marcion) depicts the deity of the Jews and that of the Christians as two separate deities with the former (Demiurge) being effectively an evil maniac. Heck, schisming within pagan religions is even worse with what started out as one deity gets fragmented into several. Such as Aphrodite Areik, Urania, and Pandemos for the Greeks. Aphrodite Areik is interesting as she was primarily a Spartan variant who had many traits of Aries and Athena as part of her make up.
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01-25-2020, 01:57 PM | #39 |
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p. B174 and Low Tech p. 11 ("Distillation") envision Alchemy/TL as a realistic skill which just comes with benefits in some settings. Low Tech page 10 lists penalties for using Chemistry/TL4 or less to perform some tasks.
I wonder how to handle the practical chemistry of many trades such as dyers, glassmakers, smelters, cooks, pharmacists, potters and glazers, painters, etc. at TL 0-4. People in these trades know a list of recipes, and some rough-and-ready empirical tests, but they don't have a good theory to guide experiments if they face something none of their recipes cover. A big part of the scientific revolution was idea exchange between working artisans and learned experts.
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