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Old 01-29-2023, 10:59 PM   #11
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Default Re: [Martial Arts] Using Judo as flier

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That's because you normally are reliant on your legs to stand, but a flyer doesn't have to stand, so you can disregard this.
I don't think it should be totally disregarded, because you still have posture changes while flying.

That means the default flying posture is being in a standing position and thrusting your legs up would put you into a lying position.

It should probably be easier to go from lying>standing posture in midair though, since you can just let your legs drop instead of lifting your upper body.

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You should be able to Parry any attack that comes from below you with your legs, yeah - and with no reliance on legs for movement, Retreating is not an issue.
There is no listed exemption to the maximum-1 rule on leg parries when you're in a posture that does not require bearing weight on the legs (such as lying down or swimming) so I don't see why there would be an exception for flying.

That said - a house rule to incorporate an exception to all three of them would be reasonable.
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Old 01-30-2023, 06:34 AM   #12
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I don't think it should be totally disregarded, because you still have posture changes while flying.

That means the default flying posture is being in a standing position and thrusting your legs up would put you into a lying position.

It should probably be easier to go from lying>standing posture in midair though, since you can just let your legs drop instead of lifting your upper body.
You should be able to largely maintain your posture and still do a leg grapple. Essentially, you kick both legs up and wrap them around the target, then you can either stay like that (in a posture admittedly closer to sitting than standing, but in midair) or let your legs come back down, essentially straddling the target (but, again, in midair). The effects of these postures don't really apply in midair, because you aren't reliant on your legs to give you full elevation or indeed to stay upright - your ability to fly has you covered there.

Difference in time to do a posture change when flying are, I believe, outside the scope of this thread; best not to derail it.

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There is no listed exemption to the maximum-1 rule on leg parries when you're in a posture that does not require bearing weight on the legs (such as lying down or swimming) so I don't see why there would be an exception for flying.
I would consider that an oversight; I see no reason why a character who is unreliant on legs to stay in their current posture (either due to being in a posture where the legs aren't supporting the character's weight, or because the character is flying) would be unable to use all of them for leg Parries.
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Old 01-31-2023, 12:23 AM   #13
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I would consider that an oversight; I see no reason why a character who is unreliant on legs to stay in their current posture (either due to being in a posture where the legs aren't supporting the character's weight, or because the character is flying) would be unable to use all of them for leg Parries.
In that case we'd expect notes on getting extra leg paries for creatures with Extra Legs who are not Quadripeds
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