Ordinary People: Characters [0] to [-50] - Page 4

Brandy · 04-19-2005, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polaris

:Scans for example, finds none, disregards:

Ze'Manel Cunha · 04-19-2005, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polaris

That depends. We aren't just talking about a teacher with a private sex life.
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Edit: That's 1600 hours assuming she had a teacher.....

She's 36 yrs old, that'd require on average under 80 hours a year, which works out to less than 15 minutes a day.

I don't know how deprived you all may be, but as a healthy Luso-American the day I average under 80 hours a year I'll feel deprived.
As I'm sure would any Luso-Americans I know, my parents included.

Regardless, that's enough!
Take it to a new thread if you must continue this off topic discussion.

Polaris · 04-19-2005, 06:04 PM

People forget skills they don't use IRL. That needs to be factored in too.

-Polaris

Polaris · 04-19-2005, 06:20 PM

Did a little web crawling, and talked with my father. Some of his colleges (over the years) DID lose their jobs to moral turpitude but that was generally due to being caught in an act of soliciting prostitutes, corporeal punishment of a student that was over the line, etc etc.

In Kathy's case it is unlikely she'd lose her certificate for moral turpitude unless she got her knowledge illegally, i.e. prostitution or the like. That said, a public teacher that earns the ire of the public (and thus the school board) can still lose their job....and this sort of behavior could do it.

That's all I intend to say about moral turpitude.

-Polaris

Kyle Aaron · 04-19-2005, 07:16 PM

Why are you guys assuming that in order to learn Erotic Art skill you need to have had many many sexual partners? It could be just one, in a nice, conservative, happy, monogamous marriage.

I feel like I'm in high school. I remember guys boasting they were studs because they had lots of girlfriends. I was a virgin, and even I could figure out that was bollocks. Are you a great worker because you've had lots of jobs? No. You might have been fired from them - having had lots of jobs might indicate you're a terrible worker, just good at comming your way into the job. Similarly, having had lots of girlfriends doesn't mean you're a stud. It might mean you're a dud. If you were any good, they'd hold onto you.

She could be practicing with just one guy, fellahs.

Anyway:

Fritz Hermann
Security specialist
-1 points

Attributes
ST 8 [-20]
DX 10 [0]
IQ 11 [20]
HT 8 [-20]
Will 11 [0]
Per 13 [10]
HP 10 [4]
FP 10 [6]

Basic Speed 4.5
Basic Lift 12 lbs, but can lift 24lbs with arms.

Disadvantages
Legless [-30]
Social Stigma (visibly disabled) [-5]
Combat Paralysis [-15]

Advantages
Arm ST (both arms, +3) [15]
English (Accented) [4]
Independent Income (4% starting wealth) [4]

Quirks
Nosy [-1]
Attentive [-1]
Careful [-1]
Smoker [-1]
Asexual [-1]

Skills
Computer Hacking (IQ/Vh) - [4] -10
Computer Operations (IQ/E) - [1] -11
Computer Programming (IQ/H) - [1] -9
Cryptography (IQ/H) - [4] -11
Diplomacy (IQ/H) - [1] -9
ElecOps (Comms) (IQ/A) - [1] -10
ElecOps (EW) (IQ/A) - [1] -10
ElecOps (Sensors) (IQ/A) - [1] -10
ElecOps (Surveillance) (IQ/A) - [4] -12
Farming (IQ/A) - [1] -10
Games (Chess) (IQ/E) - [1] -11
History (European Military) (IQ/H) - [1] -9
Intelligence Analysis (IQ/H) - [4] -11
Observation (Per/A) - [4] -14
Psychology (IQ/H) - [1] -9
Research (IQ/A) - [1] -10

Background
Fritz was born in Swabia in 1969, and grew up playing around his grandfather's farm (Farming). As a young man, he had a keen interest in chess and strategy (Games (Chess), History (European military)). So he wasn't too upset when, like all other West German men of his era, he got drafted. Finding that Fritz was of keen intelligence and had an incisive analytical mind (high IQ and Per), they put him into an Electronic Warfare unit. (Electronics Ops (Comms, EW, Sensors, Cyptography).

On a major exercise in 1990, Fritz was camped out by the side of the road with his unit when a platoon of Leopard tanks came driving through the area. Misjudging the position of the road due to the poor weather, one tank road over Fritz's unit's encampment, killing one soldier and running over Fritz's legs. Fritz might have escaped unharmed, he did hear the tanks coming after all, but he simply froze (Combat Paralysis). He lost his legs, and was pensioned out of the Army (Legless, Social Stigma (disabled), Independent Income). His wheeling around in the wheelchair may have weakened him overall (low ST, HT), but it certainly built up his arms and shoulders (Arm ST).

About a year later, Fritz had recovered physically and psychologically enough to consider his further career. The German government had recently founded the Bundesamt für Sicherheit in der Informationstechnik (BSI), the Federal Office for Information Technology Security, which was tasked to protect the electronic information security of the country. Fritz was invited to join this new agency, which he did in late 1991.

There he continued his use of his old Army skills, at least enough to keep them up, but developed further his computer skills (Computer Operations, Programming, Hacking). After several years of this, he decided to go out into the private sector, and there found himself rather closer to the people he was observing (Electronics Ops (Surveillance), Observation). His natural curiosity (Nosy) and patience (Attentive, high Will) combine well with his caution (Careful) and his skills to make him a useful surveillance and all-round information-gathering guy (Research, Intelligence Analysis); his only flaw in this regard is that he smokes a lot during times of stress or boredom (Smoker). His work took him to the USA, where of course he had to work in English (English language).

He's given up any interest in women, though he's physically able to have sex, he feels that as a "cripple," he has no chance anyway; so he studiously ignores any such stirrings (Asexual). Nonetheless, he still reads a lot of self-help books, and is something of an amateur psychologist (Psychology). He's learned to deal well with people, as he's had to make an effort to get people to overlook his disability, and hire him for jobs, as well as take what he says seriously during the job itself (Diplomacy).

Polaris · 04-19-2005, 07:27 PM

Jim Bob,

It's possible but I find that unlikely. Erotic Art in our society is typically found in:

1. Sex Therepists
2. Prostitutes (including Porn Stars)
3. Religious Followers of Certain Sects

If you look at all three, and how the skill it taught, it is virtually certain multiple partners (many many multiple partners in fact) is involved especially with this many points. This isn't H.S. s******ing. It's just a logical extension of the information given.

-Polaris

Ze'Manel Cunha · 04-19-2005, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polaris

It's just a logical extension of the information given.

No, it's not.
I didn't start this thread to discuss sex-ed, so as I've said before, start a new thread if that's what you want.

Polaris · 04-19-2005, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ze'Manel Cunha

No, it's not.
I didn't start this thread to discuss sex-ed, so as I've said before, start a new thread if that's what you want.

Beg to differ. Kathy has spend just as much effort learning how to be good at the physical act of sex as she has learning how to teach, do research, etc. That means it's a focus of her character. More to the point if you include Sex Appeal, then she has spend 6 points (a huge percentage of her point total and even a large percentage of her skill points) just on sex....and that implies the constant effort and time expended. This is not purient interest. This is a logical extension of the numbers you presented.

-Polaris

angel_lord · 04-19-2005, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polaris

Beg to differ. Kathy has spend just as much effort learning how to be good at the physical act of sex as she has learning how to teach, do research, etc. That means it's a focus of her character. More to the point if you include Sex Appeal, then she has spend 6 points (a huge percentage of her point total and even a large percentage of her skill points) just on sex....and that implies the constant effort and time expended. This is not purient interest. This is a logical extension of the numbers you presented.

-Polaris

But we've been asked to discuss it elsewhere. A simple and even reasonable request. Some people disagree with your assumptions and this side conversation threatens to hi-jack ze's thread.

Brandy · 04-19-2005, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polaris

This is a logical extension of the numbers you presented.

Nah. It's just your opinion.

04-19-2005, 06:04 PM	#33
Polaris Join Date: Feb 2005	Re: Average People: Characters [0] to [-50] People forget skills they don't use IRL. That needs to be factored in too. -Polaris

04-19-2005, 06:20 PM	#34
Polaris Join Date: Feb 2005	Re: Average People: Characters [0] to [-50] Did a little web crawling, and talked with my father. Some of his colleges (over the years) DID lose their jobs to moral turpitude but that was generally due to being caught in an act of soliciting prostitutes, corporeal punishment of a student that was over the line, etc etc. In Kathy's case it is unlikely she'd lose her certificate for moral turpitude unless she got her knowledge illegally, i.e. prostitution or the like. That said, a public teacher that earns the ire of the public (and thus the school board) can still lose their job....and this sort of behavior could do it. That's all I intend to say about moral turpitude. -Polaris

04-19-2005, 07:16 PM	#35
Kyle Aaron MIB Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia	Re: Average People: Characters [0] to [-50] Why are you guys assuming that in order to learn Erotic Art skill you need to have had many many sexual partners? It could be just one, in a nice, conservative, happy, monogamous marriage. I feel like I'm in high school. I remember guys boasting they were studs because they had lots of girlfriends. I was a virgin, and even I could figure out that was bollocks. Are you a great worker because you've had lots of jobs? No. You might have been fired from them - having had lots of jobs might indicate you're a terrible worker, just good at comming your way into the job. Similarly, having had lots of girlfriends doesn't mean you're a stud. It might mean you're a dud. If you were any good, they'd hold onto you. She could be practicing with just one guy, fellahs. Anyway: Fritz Hermann Security specialist -1 points Attributes ST 8 [-20] DX 10 [0] IQ 11 [20] HT 8 [-20] Will 11 [0] Per 13 [10] HP 10 [4] FP 10 [6] Basic Speed 4.5 Basic Lift 12 lbs, but can lift 24lbs with arms. Disadvantages Legless [-30] Social Stigma (visibly disabled) [-5] Combat Paralysis [-15] Advantages Arm ST (both arms, +3) [15] English (Accented) [4] Independent Income (4% starting wealth) [4] Quirks Nosy [-1] Attentive [-1] Careful [-1] Smoker [-1] Asexual [-1] Skills Computer Hacking (IQ/Vh) - [4] -10 Computer Operations (IQ/E) - [1] -11 Computer Programming (IQ/H) - [1] -9 Cryptography (IQ/H) - [4] -11 Diplomacy (IQ/H) - [1] -9 ElecOps (Comms) (IQ/A) - [1] -10 ElecOps (EW) (IQ/A) - [1] -10 ElecOps (Sensors) (IQ/A) - [1] -10 ElecOps (Surveillance) (IQ/A) - [4] -12 Farming (IQ/A) - [1] -10 Games (Chess) (IQ/E) - [1] -11 History (European Military) (IQ/H) - [1] -9 Intelligence Analysis (IQ/H) - [4] -11 Observation (Per/A) - [4] -14 Psychology (IQ/H) - [1] -9 Research (IQ/A) - [1] -10 Background Fritz was born in Swabia in 1969, and grew up playing around his grandfather's farm (Farming). As a young man, he had a keen interest in chess and strategy (Games (Chess), History (European military)). So he wasn't too upset when, like all other West German men of his era, he got drafted. Finding that Fritz was of keen intelligence and had an incisive analytical mind (high IQ and Per), they put him into an Electronic Warfare unit. (Electronics Ops (Comms, EW, Sensors, Cyptography). On a major exercise in 1990, Fritz was camped out by the side of the road with his unit when a platoon of Leopard tanks came driving through the area. Misjudging the position of the road due to the poor weather, one tank road over Fritz's unit's encampment, killing one soldier and running over Fritz's legs. Fritz might have escaped unharmed, he did hear the tanks coming after all, but he simply froze (Combat Paralysis). He lost his legs, and was pensioned out of the Army (Legless, Social Stigma (disabled), Independent Income). His wheeling around in the wheelchair may have weakened him overall (low ST, HT), but it certainly built up his arms and shoulders (Arm ST). About a year later, Fritz had recovered physically and psychologically enough to consider his further career. The German government had recently founded the Bundesamt für Sicherheit in der Informationstechnik (BSI), the Federal Office for Information Technology Security, which was tasked to protect the electronic information security of the country. Fritz was invited to join this new agency, which he did in late 1991. There he continued his use of his old Army skills, at least enough to keep them up, but developed further his computer skills (Computer Operations, Programming, Hacking). After several years of this, he decided to go out into the private sector, and there found himself rather closer to the people he was observing (Electronics Ops (Surveillance), Observation). His natural curiosity (Nosy) and patience (Attentive, high Will) combine well with his caution (Careful) and his skills to make him a useful surveillance and all-round information-gathering guy (Research, Intelligence Analysis); his only flaw in this regard is that he smokes a lot during times of stress or boredom (Smoker). His work took him to the USA, where of course he had to work in English (English language). He's given up any interest in women, though he's physically able to have sex, he feels that as a "cripple," he has no chance anyway; so he studiously ignores any such stirrings (Asexual). Nonetheless, he still reads a lot of self-help books, and is something of an amateur psychologist (Psychology). He's learned to deal well with people, as he's had to make an effort to get people to overlook his disability, and hire him for jobs, as well as take what he says seriously during the job itself (Diplomacy). __________________ * husband * father * personal trainer * gamer * ... in that order "Kyle's games aren't remotely thespy... I'd say they're more high-minded hack."

04-19-2005, 07:27 PM	#36
Polaris Join Date: Feb 2005	Re: Average People: Characters [0] to [-50] Jim Bob, It's possible but I find that unlikely. Erotic Art in our society is typically found in: 1. Sex Therepists 2. Prostitutes (including Porn Stars) 3. Religious Followers of Certain Sects If you look at all three, and how the skill it taught, it is virtually certain multiple partners (many many multiple partners in fact) is involved especially with this many points. This isn't H.S. s******ing. It's just a logical extension of the information given. -Polaris

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