WTF Compartmentalized Mind mod

[Nereidalbel]

Originally Posted by TroyGuffey

How would the trick Worsel does to the Delagonians in the Lensman series work? (As an advantage) Putting a fake mind up in front to receive mind-reading and mind-control attempts while the REAL you is just fine?

Compartmentalized Mind does just that. It just needs a limit in some way, such that it can't control the body. This may just be a feature, as anybody who manages to control the real you doesn't have to worry about the compartment functioning as an override.

[Not another shrubbery]

Originally Posted by Pomphis

So far I didn´t find it, but somewhere, maybe in 3e, there was a canonical way to put up a fake mind against mind reading. Possibly a technique.

In 3E Psionics, it was a benefit of very high skill (>20) with Mind Shield, called "cloaking". In 4E terms, that probably should be a Technique of Mind Shield, but the name is already taken by Astral Projection :/

[Bruno]

Originally Posted by Pomphis

So far I didn´t find it, but somewhere, maybe in 3e, there was a canonical way to put up a fake mind against mind reading. Possibly a technique.

Facade appeared in IIRC Wild Cards as a power that let you create fake minds, including being entirely different people, with skill sets etc.

There's a character in one of the Man Kzin Wars stories that creates several telepathic "false fronts" - he has difficulty using his telepathic illusion ability convincingly without really assuming a persona. This includes quite a bit of mental disadvantages and eventually, after

Spoiler:  

some Plot Devicium and either critical successes or critical failures (hard to tell) ends up in sort of an involuntary Possession/Mind-meld with an alien telepath, and a really bad identity crisis.

Entertaining story, but it sometimes reads like an irritated GM dealing with a Munchkin by choking him to death on OVER 9000.

[spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by Bruno

Facade appeared in IIRC Wild Cards as a power that let you create fake minds, including being entirely different people, with skill sets etc.

It was in Aces Abroad, the WC adventure. There was also temporary mindwipe in 3e Psionics, but the fake mind wasn't just window dressing in that case.

[The Benj]

Originally Posted by Not another shrubbery

In 3E Psionics, it was a benefit of very high skill (>20) with Mind Shield, called "cloaking". In 4E terms, that probably should be a Technique of Mind Shield, but the name is already taken by Astral Projection :/

I called it No Obvious Effect on Mind Shield.

[Not another shrubbery]

Originally Posted by The Benj

I called it No Obvious Effect on Mind Shield.

You mean No Signature? I guess that would come out to about the same cost. As I see it, that enhancement on a Mind Shield would, assuming a successful resistance, just make attackers think that that their attempt had failed without cluing them in as to why.

[The Benj]

Originally Posted by Not another shrubbery

You mean No Signature?

Yep, same thing, really.

I guess that would come out to about the same cost. As I see it, that enhancement on a Mind Shield would, assuming a successful resistance, just make attackers think that that their attempt had failed without cluing them in as to why.

That's the base assumption though.

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by Nereidalbel

Compartmentalized Mind does just that. It just needs a limit in some way, such that it can't control the body. .

I'm pretty sure the player can pick which mind is dominant.

[The Benj]

Originally Posted by David Johnston2

I'm pretty sure the player can pick which mind is dominant.

I thought there were rules for the compartments fighting for control, but maybe that's in 3rd Ed.

[Pomphis]

Originally Posted by The Benj

I thought there were rules for the compartments fighting for control, but maybe that's in 3rd Ed.

No. It´s 4e. The compartment presently in control gets a +1.