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Old 01-23-2014, 10:31 AM   #11
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One house rule that has some support from... Kromm, I think?... is that you can buy two alternate abilities at full cost, and then everything else at 20% cost, and you can then use two abilities at once.

Or three at full cost. Or however many.
You just want Compartmentalized Mind if the Alternate Abilities is defined as a mental ability.

see Alternate Abilities with Compartmentalized Mind
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Old 01-23-2014, 10:44 AM   #12
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One house rule that has some support from... Kromm, I think?... is that you can buy two alternate abilities at full cost, and then everything else at 20% cost, and you can then use two abilities at once.

Or three at full cost. Or however many.
From Kromm and PK, actually. In fact, it's only a house rule for another few hours . . .
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Old 01-23-2014, 12:25 PM   #13
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OK, what I am trying to do.

You need Telesend (Telecommunication) to establish a link with the subject.

If you require two way conversation you also need

Mind Reading.

However instead of Mind Reading you can do one of the below:
  • Affliction as noted above
  • Illusion
  • Suggest (Mind Control)
  • Mind Probe


2 Additional powers:

To find other telepaths:

Detect Telephathic Activity 10pts
Precise 100%
Signal Detection
Telepathic -10%

An Empathy that if too successful will end up mindreading the subject (ok takes a couple of seconds to Empathy, Telesend, Mind Read).

Empathy 11pts
Secondary Mind reading via Telecommunication -10%
Telepathic -10%
Unreliable -10%
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Old 01-23-2014, 12:29 PM   #14
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OK, what I am trying to do.

You need Telesend (Telecommunication) to establish a link with the subject.

If you require two way conversation you also need

Mind Reading.
Then you can't make Mind Reading and Telesend alternates. You need to be able to use them at the same time.

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However instead of Mind Reading you can do one of the below:
  • Affliction as noted above
  • Illusion
  • Suggest (Mind Control)
  • Mind Probe
You can make these alternates with Mind Reading, then.

Buy Telesend at full price; the most expensive of the others at full price, and the rest at 1/5.
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Old 01-23-2014, 01:45 PM   #15
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To got back to my other post:

Telecommunication 24pts
Sapient Beings Only -20%
Telepathic -10%
Video (Secondary Ability) 8%


Mind Reading 57pts
Malediciton 100%
Psionic -10%
Sensory 20%
Telecommunication -20%

Once communication is set up you may now use these abilities:

Affliction is the most costly one for all these abilities.
Affliction: level 4 - 72pts
Based on Will 20%
Incapacition Agony (Secondary) 4%
Incapacition Ecstasy (Secondary) 4%
Irritant Euphoria 30%
Irritant Severe Pain 40%
Psionic -10%
Selectivity 10% (either happy or pain)
Telecommunication -20%

Illusion 9pts
Alternative Attack 1/5
Mental 100%
Psionic -10%
Telecommunication -20%

Mind Control 5pts
Alternative Attack 1/5
Based on Will 20%
Psionic -10%
Suggestion only -40%
Telecommunication -20%

Mind Probe 4pts
Alternative Attack 1/5
Sensory 20%
Telecommunication -20%
Psionic -10%

2 Additional powers:

Detect Telephathic Activity 10pts
Precise 100%
Signal Detection
Telepathic -10%

Empathy 11pts
Secondary Mind reading via Telecommunication -10%
Telepathic -10%
Unreliable -10%

So this is acceptable then?

That is Mind Reading does not benefit from AA, or can it?
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Old 01-23-2014, 01:50 PM   #16
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That is Mind Reading does not benefit from AA, or can it?
It can if you can't use it and any of the others at the same time, which seems to be what you are saying. Although I really don't understand how the Empathy is actually supposed to work.
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Old 01-23-2014, 01:55 PM   #17
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It can if you can't use it and any of the others at the same time, which seems to be what you are saying. Although I really don't understand how the Empathy is actually supposed to work.
Empathy is supposed to be as a normal Empathy, ok this one is a bit fickle.

However, if the roll is 5 or less, it means that the psi is mind reading as well, which could lead to embarrassing situations. Things like privacy or information theft. Generally cause the psi awkward moments.

I just noted that I do not need malediction for Mind Reading because Telesend counts as touching the subject.

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Old 01-23-2014, 02:01 PM   #18
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However, if the roll is 5 or less, it means that the psi is mind reading as well, which could lead to embarrassing situations. Things like privacy or information theft. Generally cause the psi awkward moments.
Is this limitation published anywhere? It seem like an enhancement to me. Mind-Reading is better than Empathy and costs 2x as much besides.
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I just noted that I do not need malediction for Mind Reading because Telesend counts as touching the subject.
Mind Reading already is basically a malediction; you can use it on anyone you can see and it's unaffected by DR but rather resisted.

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