02-07-2020, 05:37 PM | #21 | |
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Re: TL 5-8 firearms in Ultra-Tech calibers
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I assume the OP wants to keep the weapon stats as similar as possible to the caseless versions they're working from, so halving the ammo capacity of the magazines while retaining the same weight means not having to change all the weapon weights, etc.
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02-07-2020, 07:14 PM | #22 | |
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Re: TL 5-8 firearms in Ultra-Tech calibers
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02-07-2020, 07:31 PM | #23 |
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Re: TL 5-8 firearms in Ultra-Tech calibers
I expect it's caseless as well as high-density magazine designs. Personally I think UT is optimistic, but it's arguable either way.
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02-07-2020, 07:32 PM | #24 |
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Re: TL 5-8 firearms in Ultra-Tech calibers
For black-powder flintlocks, Pyramid #3/88 has rules for reloading TL6-9 weapons with black powder. Flintlocks inspired by guns from Ultra-Tech would have similar performance except RoF becomes 1 and Shots becomes 1(20) for pistols, 1(40) for smoothbore long-arms, and 1(60) for rifles.
Edit: oh, and I'd probably limit this to guns with a caliber of 10mm or larger. Last edited by Michael Thayne; 02-07-2020 at 07:46 PM. |
02-07-2020, 09:10 PM | #25 |
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Re: TL 5-8 firearms in Ultra-Tech calibers
The Lee Metford Mk I used black powder .303 cartridges. There were a few other black powder bolt-action rifles of the 1880's under 10mm.
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02-08-2020, 03:42 AM | #26 |
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Re: TL 5-8 firearms in Ultra-Tech calibers
Well, many of the UT rounds seem kind of.. strange. Many seem to fire really lightweight projectiles for the given caliber. So I would not really use those numbers and thus extended I would likely not use the number of shots/magazine either.
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02-08-2020, 05:40 AM | #27 |
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Re: TL 5-8 firearms in Ultra-Tech calibers
The pistol rounds do seem light (aside from the 15mm - it's really heavy), but the rifle cartridge weights seem okay.
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02-09-2020, 11:13 AM | #28 | |
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Conversely the battle rifle concept was making a resurgence, so 5.56 was increased to 6.5, 6.8, or even 7mm diameter. *http://www.quarryhs.co.uk/THV.htm
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02-09-2020, 12:32 PM | #29 | |
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Re: TL 5-8 firearms in Ultra-Tech calibers
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I suspect that the listed weights got mangled in some manipulation of them to use the VE2 modifiers for caseless ammo. There's a few pages in the weapon pages of UT for 4e that where there was a (non) editing mix-up. Just random bad numbers rather than any exotic ammo type.
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02-10-2020, 12:28 PM | #30 |
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Re: TL 5-8 firearms in Ultra-Tech calibers
Please also keep in mind that the ability to actually read hundredths and thousandths of an inch or tenths and hundredths of a millimeter are mid to late 20th century achievements. And that the variances in tolerance of the early machine tools caused "fit" problems. As an aside, not directly related to guns, when I first started working in 1978 in the Semiconductor field, the purity of the gases and most chemicals we were using were only 99.99% to 99.995% or so pure. By the late 1990s, the purity was 99.9999+% pure for the HPLC & Semiconductor Grades of gases and chemicals. Over the last 50 years or so, our technical ability to make accurate measurements has increased dramatically.
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