06-19-2009, 12:04 PM | #11 |
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Re: How do they say "fighter", here?
As someone with good Russian and elementary Italian, I would say that you can translate the Russian "Istrebitel'" as "exterminator" or also "destroyer", and that the Italian "Aereo da caccia" is equivalent to jaeger/cazadore/chasseur/hunter aircraft, etc.
Edit: Some people may have heard of the Italian "chicken cacciatore", i.e. "hunter style", which also has equivalents in German and French, at least. Last edited by trans; 06-19-2009 at 12:13 PM. |
06-19-2009, 04:26 PM | #12 |
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Re: How do they say "fighter", here?
As an extension to 'Jaeger', some research finds other allied words in Luftwaffe usage during WWII: 'Jagdwaffe' ('fighter arm'?), 'Jagdfleiger' ('fighter pilots'?).
Does the contracted 'jagd-' indicate anything different? On the light infantry simile: also the French used to call them 'voltiguers' (leapers-forward?), in a role that might be called skirmishing/skirmishers in English (the '-schirm' part in Geman?). |
06-19-2009, 06:01 PM | #13 |
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Re: How do they say "fighter", here?
"Jagd-" is pretty much the same as "Jaeger".
The "voltigeurs" were, as I understand it, one company out of every battalion of infantry that were originally supposed to "leap" onto the back of a cavalryman's horse, and thus be carried along. In effect they were light infantry much like any other of the time. As far as I can tell, "skirmishers" do not have anything to do with "Schirm" in German. More likely Scaramouche, Scaramouche, will you do the Fandango? |
06-20-2009, 12:39 AM | #14 |
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Re: How do they say "fighter", here?
Jagd is the hunt, jäger the hunter.
Skirmisher is Plänkler. |
06-20-2009, 02:00 AM | #15 | |
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Re: How do they say "fighter", here?
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06-20-2009, 06:58 AM | #16 |
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06-20-2009, 03:46 PM | #17 | |
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'Fall' can mean 'case' or 'event' (in English we say 'that's how things fell out' or 'things fall into place' or 'things fall apart' to mean an unexpected event or unwanted result), so does 'fallschirm' imply an emergency device? I admit, I had assumed it meant 'arrival-skirmishers'. Rather like 'desantniki' being something like 'descenders' for parachute/helicopter troops in Russian. On fighter for aircraft; does any country use guerra/guerrero, or is that for people only? |
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06-20-2009, 05:19 PM | #18 | ||
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Re: How do they say "fighter", here?
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is a "Schirm" (umbrella) used to slow down something that is falling, for exam- ple a pilot after leaving his aircraft or a reentry capsule returning to earth. Quote:
could be a part of a description of a general military aircraft, to distinguish it from a civilian one (like in the English "warplane"), but I do not think that it could be used to describe a specific subtype of warplane, like a fighter. |
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06-20-2009, 11:56 PM | #19 |
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Re: How do they say "fighter", here?
That reminds me: in WW2 germany had Kampfflugzeuge (combat planes), which were bombers.
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06-21-2009, 03:29 AM | #20 | |
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Re: How do they say "fighter", here?
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transport planes: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kampfflugzeug In this terminology fighters, ground support planes and bombers are different subtypes of "Kampfflugzeug". |
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