[DFRPG] Crawl! OOC

[vicious Violence]

AFAIK we should roll perception for the attackers,. And we aré near the entrance, and we detected the zombies near the door

[PumpkinLorica]

How? We have a GOKEK watching the rear.

Originally Posted by ericthered

Bushy stands behind Gathica, watching the rear.

Also Bain isn't giving his back, he's flanking from the side OR WE WOULD BE PIN CUSHIONS. He can see and warn us just like the gokek can.

Don’t get me wrong, the surprise attack is OK. WE WANT SO MUCH BLOOD! But we aren’t completely brainless uwu.

[ajardoor]

Originally Posted by Hide

Great!

The fast-draw was successful, it was a 14 (6):
Hide: 3D6 → 6(1 +3 +2)

Then the "fast" ready was 14 (16):
Hide: 3D6 → 16(5 +6 +5)

I just wanted to summarize it, as it is implied that a fast-draw roll precedes the ready roll; hence the arrow will be ready for the next turn!

Regarding the IC, Bain is camouflaged and under cover.
They must roll to find about Bain, and Bain must also roll to notice the enemy.
Not to mention he is the furthest from both sides.

Bain has attacked zombies multiple times, and is within the Sunlight spell radius. And if that did not blow his concealment (according to the DF rules, attacking reveals yourself, although I am open to hiding again after that during combat, but that requires an action), the bandits can still make rolls every turn Bain acts to spot him. And they did.

Originally Posted by vicious Violence

AFAIK we should roll perception for the attackers,. And we aré near the entrance, and we detected the zombies near the door

You already did. Bain made an Observation roll as you guys entered the cave. The bandits had a lookout (the "severed head" in an alcove), but Bain did not investigate and just entered the cave.

Originally Posted by PumpkinLorica

How? We have a GOKEK watching the rear.

Also Bain isn't giving his back, he's flanking from the side OR WE WOULD BE PIN CUSHIONS. He can see and warn us just like the gokek can.

Don’t get me wrong, the surprise attack is OK. WE WANT SO MUCH BLOOD! But we aren’t completely brainless uwu.

The earth elemental was watching the rear, yes. But the bandits are in darkness and made their Stealth roll.

[ericthered]

What was the radius on the sunlight spell? I don't see that it was ever specified.



Could I get a diagram of this cavern complex? at least the part we're in? You've described it incompletely a few different times, and I've never been able to understand the descriptions, and I've expressed my confusion before. We should have a good understanding of at least this section of the cave because we've spent rests in it.

[Hide]

I will leave my comments via PM.

[PumpkinLorica]

Gathika threw her light like Bain’s attack, 5 yards away to cancel our penalty. It stretches 4 yards from that point to Vic’s attack range. It makes no sense to cast the light over us, we don’t want to cancel their penalties but ours. This isn’t the first time we are here. .. the watch post thing is odd. Bain checked the place, he said “preventive observation” or something. You didn’t mention anything new besides the zombies.

Also, F in memory of Vic’s critical /ᐠ.-ꞈ.ᐟ\

[ajardoor]

Originally Posted by ericthered

Could I get a diagram of this cavern complex? at least the part we're in? You've described it incompletely a few different times, and I've never been able to understand the descriptions, and I've expressed my confusion before. We should have a good understanding of at least this section of the cave because we've spent rests in it.

I do not have my computer with the Paint program on it right now...
The corridor from the cave opening leads down into a three way junction. To the left is the mess hall. To the right is the guard post. In front is another corridor going forward a few yards and then off to the right.

Originally Posted by PumpkinLorica

Gathika threw her light like Bain’s attack, 5 yards away to cancel our penalty. It stretches 4 yards from that point to Vic’s attack range. It makes no sense to cast the light over us, we don’t want to cancel their penalties but ours. This isn’t the first time we are here. .. the watch post thing is odd. Bain checked the place, he said “preventive observation” or something. You didn’t mention anything new besides the zombies.

The light radius gets rid of darkness penalties within it, and like lights has a small 3 yard distance from its edges where the darkness penalties are only -3 or less (see the section on light sources), outside that distance the normal darkness penalties resume. I already factored that in.

[ericthered]

Originally Posted by ajardoor

I do not have my computer with the Paint program on it right now...
The corridor from the cave opening leads down into a three way junction. To the left is the mess hall. To the right is the guard post. In front is another corridor going forward a few yards and then off to the right.

That's not a three-way junction... that's a four-way. Where in this is the party, and where are the bandits?

The light radius gets rid of darkness penalties within it, and like lights has a small 3 yard distance from its edges where the darkness penalties are only -3 or less (see the section on light sources), outside that distance the normal darkness penalties resume. I already factored that in.

Does that match the spell description? the daylight spell is weird. I think its intentionally described as an overhead beam to avoid getting the "bonus" area.

[ajardoor]

Originally Posted by ericthered

That's not a three-way junction... that's a four-way. Where in this is the party, and where are the bandits?

The party went left, on the edge of the mess hall. The bandits are on the right, inside the guard post (so behind you, unless you were watching the rear). (I did not count the way you came in, for the junction, but yes it is a four way, sorry.)

[ajardoor]

Bain objects to the bandits surprising and attacking him. I think he did not make it clear that he was flanking the zombies from the side.

Players, I am curious what you say about this. You might convince me of one thing or another, but right now I am of the opinion the attack is valid.