metal shields

[Rune]

Originally Posted by mlangsdorf

And Orichalcum is 1/3 the weight of bronze, so Orichalcum shields weigh 2/3rds as much as normal (x2 for metal, 1/3 for orichalcum).

OK - I am doing some thread hi-jacking here.
If Orichalcum weighs 1/3 of metal (for the same amount of protection), then it cannot suddenly weigh 2/3 because it is metal.

I know that DF1 says that Orichalcum shield weighs 2/3 of a normal shield.

But Orichalcum already weighs 1/3 of normal metal. So you cannot put in another *2 modifier in there.

I think you want that *2 modifier to come along because metal shields weigh twice as much as wood. But wood has never entered the equation here.
So following that logic Orichalcum shields should only weigh 1/3 of a normal metal shield.

Does anyone know (or can figure out) why an Orichalcum shield is so heavy? (Orichalcum armor follows the above mentioned rule of 1/3 weight but same DR).
It seems there is a breech in consistency there.
(Also, I believe this has been discussed before but I could not find the relevant thread)

[Diomedes]

Originally Posted by Rune

I think you want that *2 modifier to come along because metal shields weigh twice as much as wood. But wood has never entered the equation here.
So following that logic Orichalcum shields should only weigh 1/3 of a normal metal shield.

An orichalcum shield does weigh 1/3 as much as a normal metal shield, but the default shield is wood, not metal. Since metal shields are twice the weight, an orichalcum shield is 1/3 of that.

Does anyone know (or can figure out) why an Orichalcum shield is so heavy? (Orichalcum armor follows the above mentioned rule of 1/3 weight but same DR).

Orichalcum armor is for items that are already metal (really that are already bronze), so there's no need to double the weight for changing from wood to metal.

[Rune]

Yes. Somehow my fractions got inverted.
Weight is 2/3 of a wooden shield. I see it now.

[mlangsdorf]

Originally Posted by Rune

OK - I am doing some thread hi-jacking here.
If Orichalcum weighs 1/3 of metal (for the same amount of protection), then it cannot suddenly weigh 2/3 because it is metal.

I know that DF1 says that Orichalcum shield weighs 2/3 of a normal shield.

But Orichalcum already weighs 1/3 of normal metal. So you cannot put in another *2 modifier in there.

Normal shields are wood. Metal shields weigh twice as much as wood shields. Orichalcum shields weigh 1/3 as much as metal shields.

Boring old algebraic properties say that orichalcum shields weigh 2/3rds as much as (normal) wood shields.