Grappling with legs + arms

[RobKamm]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

Yeah taking it to the ground (in a one on one fight) is a pretty good idea. There should be a lot of opportunities for takedowns and throws from there as well. It really is actually a pretty bad idea in real life, if the big guy is a at all skilled.

Well, yes. It was a one-on-one situation and going to the ground in a group situation is bad (because that's when the stomping starts). And it wasn't a serious fight, it was two guys horsing around (and neither really trained with any sort of martial art) and one of them did something, the other reacted, and the first one got an embarassing falsetto for a minute or so. Would it have been a fight ender? With adrenaline flowing? No, I don't think so. But it could lead to enough of a stun that the small guy could release his grip -- which is the big guy's objective.

As for dodging the stop-and-drop, the small guy would have to realize what was happening and release his grapple in the time that it takes someone to fall to the ground. While focusing on climbing up another person and attacking them at the neck. Let me know how that works out for you. As it was, I had grabbed his legs so that he really couldn't get away and then kicked my legs out from under myself. If he'd had a knife I (hope) that I would have forgone the leg grab and used my hands to keep the knife out of my throat.

My point was that Bruno's suggestion of using a wall was viable (subject to the right wall choice), and other similar options exist even when wall choices are limited (there is almost always a floor handy).