GURPS Dungeon Fantasy 8: Treasure Tables

[Peter Knutsen]

Originally Posted by b-dog

Just bought is and I can say I like this product the best so far. It is more serious and also goes into artistic descriptions of the items. Hopefully the future DF monster book will have interesting descriptions of the monsters the same way that Treasure Tables has of treasures. I will say that I like the historical artwork too because it gives a better feel than the cartoony art of the other DF books. This type of book is what I believe DF should be about which is about searching through dungeons to find fabulous treasures that are interesting in and of themselves beyond mere combat power. Really good job!

The DF series has illustrations in it? I've barely noticed...

[Peter Knutsen]

Originally Posted by Rasputin

A definite thumbs up to Matt (TBC). I should also note the considerable list of mundane gear, making this even more akin to early versions of D&D, where every item of clothing was listed on your sheet.

Sounds like overkill to me.

I think it's fine just to have sets of clothing, defined by quality level, colour, and maybe fabric except if that's already part of quality level, ruggedness or durability (this is needed at least if fabric is not defined clearly), and any special effects such as terrain- or darkness-based camouflage, warmt or bonus to Sex Appal skill rolls.

[Peter Knutsen]

No Bane weapons in DF8? What's up with that?

Major design oversight...

[SCAR]

Originally Posted by thulben

Your answer lies here:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dungeon Fantasy 8
Any reserve given for an “always on” enchantment can be used to power any other enchantments on the item, instead

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Originally Posted by Turhan's Bey Company

Thulben has half of it. The other key text is:

Originally Posted by p. 45 (among others)
The object has a power reserve of the indicated type; roll again on the table to determine the underlying enchantment

So, basically, roll on the table until you hit a spell which the reserve can meaningfully power.

I got the second part for the Regenerating Reserve and I re-rolled and got Resist Lightning (always on) - which I like since it goes with the rolling clouds embellishment.

I hadn't seen the first part (since I haven't really read DF8 yet, I just dived straight in with the dice!) - in this case the item has no other Enchantments.

So I guess I would either ignore the Regenerating Reserve (or leave it there to power any future Enchantments placed on the item), or re-roll Resist Lightning (always on) for a different Enchantment which can use the Reserve, or just change the Resist Lightning to (cast)!

Thanks

[thulben]

Originally Posted by SCAR

or re-roll Resist Lightning (always on) for a different Enchantment which can use the Reserve, or just change the Resist Lightning to (cast)!
Thanks

That's the idea. Also, items don't have to be completely random. You came up with a pretty sweet item with the dice but you need one more enchantment that will work with the reserve. Pick one that goes with the theme (Walk on Air maybe).

[Figleaf23]

Originally Posted by Kromm

... What's perhaps coolest is that it addresses modifying items: they can be intricately shaped and stylized, made of remarkable materials, bejewelled, enchanted, supernaturally embellished, and possibly even cursed. So if you've always wanted a fine, icy tempered-glass broadsword, set with peridot and etched with a squid motif, that chimes when swung . . . well, now you have a tiny chance of finding one at random, and can easily work out the price to commission one (if the GM and the Squid Gods let you!).

Nice! GURPS does delving better than Delvers & Demons ever did.

[Turhan's Bey Company]

Originally Posted by b-dog

It is more serious

(Stands in front of the flying gazebo, the Helvetian pike, and the introduction, hoping no one sees.)

Originally Posted by b-dog

This type of book is what I believe DF should be about which is about searching through dungeons to find fabulous treasures that are interesting in and of themselves

It may also help towards the other thing you want DF to be, which is horror. Slapping the Corrupting, Distracting, Haunted, Lifebane, Spirit Trap, Toxic Aura, Troubled Sleep, and Voices curses on magic items will give them a distinctly creepy air.

Anyway, glad you liked it!

[Turhan's Bey Company]

Originally Posted by SCAR

So I guess I would either ignore the Regenerating Reserve (or leave it there to power any future Enchantments placed on the item), or re-roll Resist Lightning (always on) for a different Enchantment which can use the Reserve, or just change the Resist Lightning to (cast)!

I'd go with the second, but the third is a good option. The first seems less than ideal because by default there's not a lot of in-play enchantment in DF, but if you've got enchanters-for-hire kicking around your DF campaign, that should work.

[SCAR]

Originally Posted by Turhan's Bey Company

I'd go with the second, but the third is a good option. The first seems less than ideal because by default there's not a lot of in-play enchantment in DF, but if you've got enchanters-for-hire kicking around your DF campaign, that should work.

The item was an entirely random just to test out the rules - which worked just fine.
The obvious answer to fixing the mismatch of 2 bits is to roll again, which is fine - I'm not sure it would be reasonable to expect every last one of the trillions of possible combinations to work perfectly!

[Turhan's Bey Company]

Originally Posted by SCAR

I'm not sure it would be reasonable to expect every last one of the trillions of possible combinations to work perfectly!

Some possible combinations are downright bizarre (say, a sofa liberally decorated with feathers in the image of a holy man and enchanted with Jump). As a long-time fan of Jack Vance, I'm totally OK with that, but it may prompt some rerolling on the part of many GMs.