Why is Broad-Minded a Quirk?

[Figleaf23]

Originally Posted by Ulzgoroth

There is no such thing as normal levels of narrow-mindedness for a PC...

Unless modified, a PC is a baseline character with baseline levels of narrowmindedness, whatever they may be, as for example, whatever the rules assumed when they wrote 'strange looks rarely bother you'.

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by Figleaf23

The first sentence doesn't have any content to operationalize.

Doesn't it? Doesn't Xenophilia have a specific meaning in the game system?

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by Figleaf23

Unless modified, a PC is a baseline character with baseline levels of narrowmindedness, whatever they may be.

Baseline is zero. There are no secret implicit mental disadvantages.

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by Figleaf23

Unless modified, a PC is a baseline character with baseline levels of narrowmindedness, whatever they may be, as for example, whatever the rules assumed when they wrote 'strange looks rarely bother you'.

No, barring the existence of psych lims and quirks, the PC's personality is whatever the player says it is. Want to be anachronistically egalitarian in the 13th century? No prob. (Well apart from how the aristocrats and even the peasants will sometimes react.). You don't _need_ a quirk to act quirky and you don't need an OPH to act obnoxious, just as you don't need to have an enemy on your character sheet to have someone stalking you and trying to kill you.

[Figleaf23]

Originally Posted by David Johnston2

Doesn't it? Doesn't Xenophilia have a specific meaning in the game system?

I know of no description provided anywhere in the rules for "a trivial form of Xenophilia" (other than what p163 purports, of course).

[Figleaf23]

Originally Posted by Ulzgoroth

Baseline is zero. There are no secret implicit mental disadvantages.

That's why broadmindedness ought to be a perk.

[Figleaf23]

Originally Posted by David Johnston2

No, barring the existence of psych lims and quirks, the PC's personality is whatever the player says it is.

If it diverges too much from the setting norm, the personality will require representation through traits.

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by Figleaf23

That's why broadmindedness ought to be a perk.

Ok. Can you explain in some depth how this sentence follows what was quoted? It appears a complete non sequitur to me.

Originally Posted by Figleaf23

If it diverges too much from the setting norm, the personality will require representation through traits.

A PC is not defined relative to setting norms, except for reaction-modifier traits which describe how others in the setting see them.

[Figleaf23]

Originally Posted by Ulzgoroth

Ok. Can you explain in some depth how this sentence follows what was quoted? It appears a complete non sequitur to me.

We are discussing the word 'broadminded'. Since it implies an improved condition from the norm, or baseline, a trait based on it would be expected to be beneficial -- hence a Perk rather than a Quirk.

A PC is not defined relative to setting norms, ...

Well, that totally depends on the setting. A common example is the treatment of Magery in different people's universes.

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by Figleaf23

We are discussing the word 'broadminded'. Since it implies an improved condition from the norm, or baseline, a trait based on it would be expected to be beneficial -- hence a Perk rather than a Quirk.

The norm is not the baseline.

Originally Posted by Figleaf23

Well, that totally depends on the setting. A common example is the treatment of Magery in different people's universes.

Um? Magery is relative to setting norms how, in what setting?