Fortify and Dire Spider Silk

[The Benj]

Originally Posted by Kalzazz

Dire Spider Silk armor can be worn under other armor with no penalty, for +2 DR

Dire Spider Silk armor is very expensive . . . . Fortify 1 is very cheap

But also wears off if your armour is penetrated a few times.

Can you cast Fortify on the dire spider silk armor for even mroe DR?

Yes, you can enchant giant spider silk armour. It's armour.

What about the armor it is being worn under?

Sure.

[mlangsdorf]

The rules are a bit unclear as to whether Fortify on different layers of armor stacks, though.

[PK]

Originally Posted by mlangsdorf

The rules are a bit unclear as to whether Fortify on different layers of armor stacks, though.

It doesn't. You only use the single highest bonus of Fortify for any given hit location. Kromm ruled on this via PM a few days ago.

[vicky_molokh]

Originally Posted by Rev. Pee Kitty

It doesn't. You only use the single highest bonus of Fortify for any given hit location. Kromm ruled on this via PM a few days ago.

I wonder why that hasn't been stated so in Magic all those years back.

[martinl]

Originally Posted by Molokh

I wonder why that hasn't been stated so in Magic all those years back.

Layering fortifies is an old enough issue I remember it being being discussed on the GURPS newsgroup before the Pyramid boards (which preceded these boards) existed.

Back then, it was pointed out that if you could layer fortifies, you could make very thin fortified plates and stack them for ridiculous amounts of (ablative) DR.

My main guess is that GURPS players generally don't go out to rape the system - or if they do, they have easier targets, so it's never been a huge issue.

[Bruno]

Generally, glaringly obvious rules abuses are the least likely to succeed. Sitting down at the table and handing the GM a character sheet with DR 100 on it in a TL 3 game is enough to alert even the most casual GM that Something Fishy Is Going On.

Similarly, mid game announcing you're going to buy 100 silk negligees and enchant them all with Fortify 1 is obvious enough that the GM is going to give you a suspicious look and ask you WHY.

It's the problems that a munchkin can hide either in a storm of modifiers, or spread out across ten different abilities and skills, and then unveil in the middle of a fight that give the GM the biggest headache. These are also the ones that **** off your fellow players the most, by the way, because stopping in the middle of a fight to have an argument with the GM for 30 minutes makes NOBODY happy with you.

[Bruno]

By the way, this is one of the beneficial side effects of listing all the attack combinations you can think of before play with all the modifiers and the final damage listed. One, it speeds up play. But TWO, it makes it glaringly obvious to the GM that one of your super attack c-c-combo! setups does 20d+60 (10) cosmic burn damage BEFORE you get into a fight.

[Stripe]

Originally Posted by Rev. Pee Kitty

It doesn't. You only use the single highest bonus of Fortify for any given hit location. Kromm ruled on this via PM a few days ago.

sounds like the same ruling as for Deflect. Here's a thread from 2005: http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread...t+stack&page=2

[Captain-Captain]

Originally Posted by mlangsdorf

The rules are a bit unclear as to whether Fortify on different layers of armor stacks, though.

Since when? Earlier books even spoke about the fortified Tee shirt layser trick.

[Nymdok]

Originally Posted by The Benj

Yes, you can enchant giant spider silk armour. It's armour.

Ditto that. Also, although I cant reference a specific citation, I believe that the DR will also stack. THere is no reason to think that it wouldnt.

Nymdok