Super Munchkin: Heroic Angst?

munchkinchoy · 08-09-2009, 01:45 AM

In a losing fight, I sacrificed my sidekick in order to run away automatically. Then I played Heroic Angst in order to go up a level. My bossy sister-in-law argued with me for 20 minutes saying that this was illegal. My interpretation of the card saying "Your sidekick has fallen in battle" means this is EXACTLY the appropriate use of the card. She argued that one would have to discard a sidekick at some other time other than running away from a lost fight.
Who is right?

MunchkinMan · 08-09-2009, 10:48 AM

You discarded your Sidekick to Run Away, so you had no Sidekick to discard to use the Heroic Angst card, so the play was not legal.

munchkinchoy · 08-11-2009, 08:27 PM

Is there ever a time when this would work? What if I declared that I was simultaneously sacrificing my sidekick and playing Heroic Angst? The thing about the wording that got me was it says "Your sidekick has fallen in battle." To me, that implies a combat where one sacrifices his/her sidekick.

MunchkinMan · 08-11-2009, 09:26 PM

No. You either discard your Hireling to successfully Run Away or you discard it to power the card, but you can not get double duty out of one discard.

munchkinchoy · 08-13-2009, 01:55 AM

Well, OK. Since you are The Munchkin Man, I have to respect your ruling. However, I'm going to declare a House Rule that specifically allows the use of Heroic Angst when sacrificing a sidekick to run away. I think that would just be more fun, even if it isn't the "original intent" of the card.

08-09-2009, 01:45 AM	#1
munchkinchoy Join Date: Aug 2009	Super Munchkin: Heroic Angst? In a losing fight, I sacrificed my sidekick in order to run away automatically. Then I played Heroic Angst in order to go up a level. My bossy sister-in-law argued with me for 20 minutes saying that this was illegal. My interpretation of the card saying "Your sidekick has fallen in battle" means this is EXACTLY the appropriate use of the card. She argued that one would have to discard a sidekick at some other time other than running away from a lost fight. Who is right?

08-09-2009, 10:48 AM	#2
MunchkinMan Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Macungie, PA	Re: Super Munchkin: Heroic Angst? You discarded your Sidekick to Run Away, so you had no Sidekick to discard to use the Heroic Angst card, so the play was not legal. __________________ Erik D. Zane *Munchkin* NetRep -- munchkin@sjgames.com MiB #1029

08-11-2009, 08:27 PM	#3
munchkinchoy Join Date: Aug 2009	Re: Super Munchkin: Heroic Angst? Is there ever a time when this would work? What if I declared that I was simultaneously sacrificing my sidekick and playing Heroic Angst? The thing about the wording that got me was it says "Your sidekick has fallen in battle." To me, that implies a combat where one sacrifices his/her sidekick.

08-11-2009, 09:26 PM	#4
MunchkinMan Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Macungie, PA	Re: Super Munchkin: Heroic Angst? No. You either discard your Hireling to successfully Run Away or you discard it to power the card, but you can not get double duty out of one discard. __________________ Erik D. Zane *Munchkin* NetRep -- munchkin@sjgames.com MiB #1029

08-13-2009, 01:55 AM	#5
munchkinchoy Join Date: Aug 2009	Re: Super Munchkin: Heroic Angst? Well, OK. Since you are The Munchkin Man, I have to respect your ruling. However, I'm going to declare a House Rule that specifically allows the use of Heroic Angst when sacrificing a sidekick to run away. I think that would just be more fun, even if it isn't the "original intent" of the card.