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Old 06-12-2009, 05:00 PM   #1
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Default Missing Prereq on Speed-Reading

Shouldn't Speed-Reading (p222) have Literacy as a prereq?

Before anyone says I'm nitpicking, look at Research/TL on p217...
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Old 06-12-2009, 05:50 PM   #2
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No. Research requires understanding. Speed-reading doesn't, if you have Photographic Memory.
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Old 06-12-2009, 05:55 PM   #3
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Yeah, Speed-Reading has nothing to do with comprehension. It's just being able to glance over strings of symbols quickly. Olaf the Illiterate could take both Native Language (Native/None) and Speed-Reading, and use his skill to examine magical runes quickly without knowing what, if anything, they spell.
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Old 06-12-2009, 05:56 PM   #4
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speed reading is THE skill for flip picture books ^_~

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Old 06-12-2009, 06:28 PM   #5
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Thanks for the quick answers!
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Old 06-12-2009, 07:01 PM   #6
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Olaf the Illiterate could... use his skill to examine magical runes quickly without knowing what, if anything, they spell
So, does Speed-Reading hurt Olaf's saving throw if he's pursuing a certain elven wizard?
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Old 06-13-2009, 04:08 PM   #7
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No. Research requires understanding. Speed-reading doesn't, if you have Photographic Memory.
My background in psychology says this is utterly unrealistic. Speed-Reading is assuredly not a skill for absorbing vast amounts of atomically remembered symbols. Speed-Seeing is an entirely different skill.
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Old 06-13-2009, 08:24 PM   #8
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My background in psychology says this is utterly unrealistic.
Photographic memory is utterly unrealistic.
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Old 06-13-2009, 09:01 PM   #9
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My background in psychology says this is utterly unrealistic. Speed-Reading is assuredly not a skill for absorbing vast amounts of atomically remembered symbols. Speed-Seeing is an entirely different skill.
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Photographic memory is utterly unrealistic.
the way photographic memory works, kinda makes you wonder about the real photo-mem people. On the thought http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photographic_memory

when i was a kid my mom was told by the psychologist that i had been tested with perfect memory. I admit I have better memory when it comes to details, but not much better than anyone who was trained or habitually observant or attentive. I wouldn't say I had a +5 over my peers, maybe a +2 and on only things i actually paid attention too. I would add t say that in the Information Age we are suffering Attention poverty.

I don't think people of higher memory ability than me the real photo-mem and the eidetic mem. As an example, if you asked me to observe chinese symbols unless I wrote them down i would not remember each detail precise and reliably enough even if my life depended on it.

If there were to be a measure of context- maybe alien symbols should be a -5 TDM to remember, -10 TDM when speed reading.

Oh yea, I used to do the Speed Read, Photo-mem combo, for my spies and hackers. After a while it was utterly unrealistic.
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Old 06-15-2009, 10:58 PM   #10
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Photographic memory is utterly unrealistic.
Some forms are obviously realistic. Globally is rather unrealistic, but I would not say utterly, at the level of detail GURPS usually works at.
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