Knockback against opponents with Flight, Clinging, Catfall

[David Johnston2]

[QUOTE=nerfninja;792997]

If the knockback does not bring them into contact with any terrain, do they suffer collision damage with the ground?

No. They'd just kind of skid along the ground until they came to a stop. You need to am for trees and walls behind your target.

What if the opponent has an advantage like Flight, Clinging, or Catfall.

Flight wouldn't help except by making it difficult to hit the target in a way that will make it collide with anything. I would say that Clinging would double your ST for resisting knockback...but only if you happen to be standing on a clingable surface (for example, not dirt) and are actually using your clinging (which would of course halve your movement and mean that you are walking kind of funny.) As for Catfall, I think you'd need to make an acrobatics roll or something to bring it into play since you aren't actually falling.

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by David Johnston2

No. They'd just kind of skid along the ground until they came to a stop. You need to am for trees and walls behind your target.

...In the real world, when you 'just kind of skid along the ground' you're probably going to suffer a lot of superficial injuries, and potentially worse.

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by Ulzgoroth

...In the real world, when you 'just kind of skid along the ground' you're probably going to suffer a lot of superficial injuries, and potentially worse.

Oh I know. I've wiped out on my motorcycle at highway speed. But it was nothing like what hitting a wall would have been like, and even slight armour was enough to protect me from lasting injury.

[WingedKagouti]

Originally Posted by David Johnston2

Oh I know. I've wiped out on my motorcycle at highway speed. But it was nothing like what hitting a wall would have been like, and even slight armour was enough to protect me from lasting injury.

Proper MC gear is excelent for taking the damage from something like that, but normal, non-protective clothing would have left you with lasting damage at that speed.

[Erik_Nielsen]

Originally Posted by David Johnston2

Oh I know. I've wiped out on my motorcycle at highway speed. But it was nothing like what hitting a wall would have been like, and even slight armour was enough to protect me from lasting injury.

Since we have rules for this (B468, Bailing Out of a Moving Vehicle), why not apply them to this situation? In other words: "a collision with an immovable object, at the vehicle's speed."

If it's good enough for falling off a motorcycle, it should be good enough for getting knocked off your feet by Tornado Punch.

[nerfninja]

[QUOTE=David Johnston2;793058]

Originally Posted by nerfninja

No. They'd just kind of skid along the ground until they came to a stop. You need to aim[edit] for trees and walls behind your target.

Does one actually aim the direction they send someone with knockback? As I understand they simply fly directly away from you. The only way to 'aim' is to position oneself before attacking.

Assuming a 2-dimensional world, that's simple enough, but what if there is some arc to the knockback trajectory? Would they not take falling damage at least based on the max height of the arc?

The motorcycle accident analogy has me convinced. If I were GM'ing which I'm not, I think I'd apply collision damage with the ground, perhaps with some reduction (halve? or double DR?).

[nerfninja]

[edit] double post, woops [edit]

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