[Spaceships] Missile combat vessel - Page 2

Ulzgoroth · 09-06-2008, 04:52 PM

Thanks for the review!

The Orion only has 2 tanks of nuclear pellets. The other tank is a (probably unnecessary) tank of fuel for its chemical power plants.

I'd reserve split occupancies for passenger seating, myself.

The turrets mounted are much, much smaller than standard for an SM+10 tertiary battery. I'm only counting the 6 point-defense mounts at the half-ton and 50K price you'd pay on a ship with batteries that size. I think that accounts for the cargo, and possibly the price as well. (Built as: Tertiary battery, -28 mounts, + 6 PD turrets)

You're absolutely right about the DR. Um. I'll go fix that.

Ulzgoroth · 09-06-2008, 07:10 PM

Sirius LSOMP
This is a lighter successor to the Orion. With the observation that the Orion could discharge all its weapons long before any opponent could approach it, and that few weapon strikes were usefully degraded by the Orion's armor, the Sirius was proposed. Its higher crew density (without AI gunners) requires that only 5 be substituted for one Orion on some carriers, which limits their advantage, but even so they hold a substantial advantage in degradation under fire.

If AI gunnery is available, the Sirius can be substituted for the Orion at 10 to 1 on most hangar-based carriers, providing an overwhelming advantage per shipload.

TL: 9
dST/dHP: 20
Hnd/SR: -2/4
HT: 12
Move: .04G/10 mps
LWt: 30 Tons
Load: 4.1 Tons
SM: 5
Occ: 36 SV
dDR: 0
Cost: 2.52M

Front
[1-5] Medium Battery (3 5-shot 16cm missile turrets each)
[6] Medium Battery (2 5-shot 16cm missile turrets, 6 spare missiles, 0.2 ton food)
[Core] Control room (1 control stations, C5 network, level 3 sensors)

Middle
[1-6!] Medium Battery (3 VRF 30kJ lasers each)
[core] MHD turbine

Rear
[1-2] MHD turbines
[3-4] Fuel Tank (3 tons nuclear pellets)
[5-6] Fusion Pulse Drive (.04G)

6.07 tons of missiles
150.9K fuel per mission
New and warloaded: 8,740.9K, plus optional nukes at 850KM per serving

Crew: 1 pilot and 35 turret gunners

Probably can upgrade network to C6 for 49.9K (Genius option from UT, applied to apparent small computer), allowing numerous dedicated AI gunners to replace humans.

thtraveller · 09-07-2008, 03:40 AM

I get a lower ASV (784) on the Macon and a lower Hnd -3 on the Vakhmistrov.

Ulzgoroth · 09-07-2008, 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thtraveller

I get a lower ASV (784) on the Macon and a lower Hnd -3 on the Vakhmistrov.

Right on both counts, but I get 792. Did you count the cages?

09-06-2008, 04:52 PM	#1
Ulzgoroth Join Date: Jul 2008	Re: [Spaceships] Missile combat vessel Thanks for the review! The Orion only has 2 tanks of nuclear pellets. The other tank is a (probably unnecessary) tank of fuel for its chemical power plants. I'd reserve split occupancies for passenger seating, myself. The turrets mounted are much, much smaller than standard for an SM+10 tertiary battery. I'm only counting the 6 point-defense mounts at the half-ton and 50K price you'd pay on a ship with batteries that size. I think that accounts for the cargo, and possibly the price as well. (Built as: Tertiary battery, -28 mounts, + 6 PD turrets) You're absolutely right about the DR. Um. I'll go fix that. Last edited by Ulzgoroth; 09-06-2008 at 06:39 PM.

09-06-2008, 07:10 PM	#2
Ulzgoroth Join Date: Jul 2008	Re: [Spaceships] Missile combat vessel Sirius LSOMP This is a lighter successor to the Orion. With the observation that the Orion could discharge all its weapons long before any opponent could approach it, and that few weapon strikes were usefully degraded by the Orion's armor, the Sirius was proposed. Its higher crew density (without AI gunners) requires that only 5 be substituted for one Orion on some carriers, which limits their advantage, but even so they hold a substantial advantage in degradation under fire. If AI gunnery is available, the Sirius can be substituted for the Orion at 10 to 1 on most hangar-based carriers, providing an overwhelming advantage per shipload. TL: 9 dST/dHP: 20 Hnd/SR: -2/4 HT: 12 Move: .04G/10 mps LWt: 30 Tons Load: 4.1 Tons SM: 5 Occ: 36 SV dDR: 0 Cost: 2.52M Front [1-5] Medium Battery (3 5-shot 16cm missile turrets each) [6] Medium Battery (2 5-shot 16cm missile turrets, 6 spare missiles, 0.2 ton food) [Core] Control room (1 control stations, C5 network, level 3 sensors) Middle [1-6!] Medium Battery (3 VRF 30kJ lasers each) [core] MHD turbine Rear [1-2] MHD turbines [3-4] Fuel Tank (3 tons nuclear pellets) [5-6] Fusion Pulse Drive (.04G) 6.07 tons of missiles 150.9K fuel per mission New and warloaded: 8,740.9K, plus optional nukes at 850KM per serving Crew: 1 pilot and 35 turret gunners Probably can upgrade network to C6 for 49.9K (Genius option from UT, applied to apparent small computer), allowing numerous dedicated AI gunners to replace humans.

09-07-2008, 03:40 AM	#3
thtraveller Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manchester, UK	Re: [Spaceships] Missile combat vessel I get a lower ASV (784) on the Macon and a lower Hnd -3 on the Vakhmistrov. __________________ Always challenge the assumptions