Passive Defense of 3rd edition - Page 2

Pip Boy · 07-17-2008, 05:06 PM

In 3e, the shield's PD sums to ALL active defenses rolls, but only from attacks incoming from the front and/or shield side hex. It must be WIELDED to give it's PD, not only CARRIED.

Ps: In 3e, isn't maximum PD at 6?

Gudiomen · 07-17-2008, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pip Boy

Ps: In 3e, isn't maximum PD at 6?

I seem to remember so. Although some force-fields had PD8 were apparently an exception to the rule.

Bloody messy mechanic, good riddance.

Phaelen Bleux · 07-17-2008, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ze'Manel Cunha

Which is why PD went away for 4e, it was too silly to implement properly.

Anything gets silly when you go to the ends of a bell curve.

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Originally Posted by Bruno

If you had PD 3 from a large shield, and 3 from armor, for a total of 6, and your base dodge has been nerfed by encumbrance down to 4, you still could dodge things 50% of the time. With a base dodge of 6, or a PD of 6, you could dodge things about 13% of the time. Because of the bell curve, when you add the two together, the effect scaled wildly out of proportion.

Actually, you could only Dodge (that is, get completely out of the way) 20% of the time. 30% of the time things bounced off of you without penetrating. That's why it's PASSIVE defense. 50% of the time you were hit and hurt.

I have fought with sword and shield. The shield helps A LOT!!!

Kromm · 07-17-2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pip Boy

In 3e, isn't maximum PD at 6?

A common but erroneous belief. The Passive Defense advantage from Supers was so limited, but total PD from all sources had no special limit. It's like the myth that Dodge in 3e couldn't exceed 10 . . . sure it could, just not for the natural animals in Bestiary.

Gudiomen · 07-17-2008, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kromm

A common but erroneous belief. The Passive Defense advantage from Supers was so limited, but total PD from all sources had no special limit.

A missunderstanding probably born out of some inner instinct to fix the mechanic.

~~Figleaf23~~ · 07-17-2008, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pip Boy

Ps: In 3e, isn't maximum PD at 6?

Yes. Complaints about it reaching above that are misplaced.

Pip Boy · 07-18-2008, 11:12 AM

Common indeed.
;)

07-17-2008, 05:06 PM	#11
Pip Boy Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: The Wasteland	Re: Passive Defense of 3rd edition In 3e, the shield's PD sums to ALL active defenses rolls, but only from attacks incoming from the front and/or shield side hex. It must be WIELDED to give it's PD, not only CARRIED. Ps: In 3e, isn't maximum PD at 6? __________________ Brazilian Vault Dweller, Wanderer and Chosen One. (Feel free to correct my english grammar!)

07-18-2008, 11:12 AM	#17
Pip Boy Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: The Wasteland	Re: Passive Defense of 3rd edition Common indeed. ;) __________________ Brazilian Vault Dweller, Wanderer and Chosen One. (Feel free to correct my english grammar!)