The Low Tech You want

[Peter V. Dell'Orto]

Originally Posted by Dangerious P. Cats

I'd like to see some cross over with Martial Arts, the appendix in high tech was really cool.

Not likely. GURPS Martial Arts already has low-tech martial arts. High-Tech included its appendix to cover stuff we couldn't cover in Martial Arts, partly from a different focus but also because you'd need High Tech to make it useful! Low-Tech wouldn't really have anything to add in the way of martial arts that wouldn't have just fallen under the umbrella of MA already.

[Icelander]

Originally Posted by Toadkiller_Dog

Not likely. GURPS Martial Arts already has low-tech martial arts. Jigh-Tech included its appendix to cover stuff we couldn't cover in Martial Arts, partly from a different focus but also because you'd need High Tech to make it useful! Low-Tech wouldn't really have anything to add in the way of martial arts that wouldn't have just fallen under the umbrella of MA already.

Well, you never know. There might be new weapons there that immediately suggest Perks or Techniques to make use of them or something similar. Or, if Low-Tech military technology and methods is covered in some detail, there might be room for a style or two that didn't make it into Martial Arts.

An Appendix like High-Tech had could easily be put together without being off-topic.

[Peter V. Dell'Orto]

Originally Posted by Icelander

An Appendix like High-Tech had could easily be put together without being off-topic.

But not without it being MORE on-topic for a separate e23 book just centered on those styles. Guns were off-topic for MA but on-topic for High-Tech, so the crossover made sense. Low-tech weapons were on-topic for Martial Arts, so if we needed them for a "missed" style we just included them. It would stand alone better than it would as a chapter shoved into Low-Tech, which I expect will elicit cries of "you left this out!" more than "you should have included some martial arts."

[Icelander]

Originally Posted by Toadkiller_Dog

But not without it being MORE on-topic for a separate e23 book just centered on those styles. Guns were off-topic for MA but on-topic for High-Tech, so the crossover made sense. Low-tech weapons were on-topic for Martial Arts, so if we needed them for a "missed" style we just included them. It would stand alone better than it would as a chapter shoved into Low-Tech, which I expect will elicit cries of "you left this out!" more than "you should have included some martial arts."

Seperate e23 books are all to the good. How fast can you write some? ;)

Doesn't really matter what you want to focus on, either. Anything expanding on Martial Arts is welcome.

[Peter V. Dell'Orto]

Apparently, not quickly. I've churned out of a number of Pyramid articles, but e23 books to the Martial Arts level of accuracy and research are just too time consuming. It's not something I can do in bits and pieces as time comes up in my schedule, but Pyramid articles can be.

[Phil Masters]

Originally Posted by Kromm

With apologies to those who like ancient cultures, all their tech would fit in a thimble next to what exists at the high-tech end of things, so when the TL advanced by one, we stretched out the low-tech end, because it was more likely to fit in a book still.

I still think that TL0 should have been divided into two when we had the chance...

[t@nya]

Originally Posted by Phil Masters

I still think that TL0 should have been divided into two when we had the chance...

That's one of the things I like about Lands Out of Time: they way they divided TL0 into early, middle, and late.

[Not another shrubbery]

Originally Posted by Phil Masters

I still think that TL0 should have been divided into two when we had the chance...

<scrunch> But it still would have been zero.

[Phantasm]

Originally Posted by Phil Masters

I still think that TL0 should have been divided into two when we had the chance...

There's always the possibility of negative TLs to represent really primitive technologies.

By the current RAW, that one tribe of chimpanzees that uses spears to hunt is at the same TL as the society depicted in the movie 10,000 B.C. - clearly a discrepancy. Now, if we accept the "late stone age" as TL 0, the "middle stone age" could be TL -1, "early stone age" as TL -2, and "pre-stone age" (like the modern-day chimpanzees) as TL -3.

[Not another shrubbery]

Originally Posted by tbrock1031

There's always the possibility of negative TLs to represent really primitive technologies.

By the current RAW, that one tribe of chimpanzees that uses spears to hunt is at the same TL as the society depicted in the movie 10,000 B.C. - clearly a discrepancy. Now, if we accept the "late stone age" as TL 0, the "middle stone age" could be TL -1, "early stone age" as TL -2, and "pre-stone age" (like the modern-day chimpanzees) as TL -3.

But the rules alredy recognize advancements within a TL. If you were going to cut TL0 up like that, it seems even more justifiable to expand the TL list back to 3E levels, or longer... not a good idea, IMO.