[PP] [P] Psionic Ability Building

[naloth]

This feels like a Scanning Sense to me. Almost the entire description matches the opening sentence of that advantage.

I'd call it a type of Para-Radar that you can modify as needed (no penetration even of thin stuff since it only does surface touch, detectable, shorter range?).

[Thökk]

Originally Posted by naloth

This feels like a Scanning Sense to me. Almost the entire description matches the opening sentence of that advantage.

I'd call it a type of Para-Radar that you can modify as needed (no penetration even of thin stuff since it only does surface touch, detectable, shorter range?).

Well, yes, I got that it is similar to Scanning Sense, but the description of Para-radar didn't make sense to me and I didn't know what limitations and enhancement could describe this ability precicely. Luckily, others had chimed in with a lot of advice.

Originally Posted by Shimmin Beg

-snip-

Thanks, that answered my question more or less completely.

It it possible to give "Detect"-specific modifiers to Scanning sense instead?

[naloth]

Originally Posted by Thökk

Well, yes, I got that it is similar to Scanning Sense, but the description of Para-radar didn't make sense to me and I didn't know what limitations and enhancement could describe this ability precicely. Luckily, others had chimed in with a lot of advice.

What doesn't make sense about it? It functions like image radar but uses some pseudo-science mechanism to justify working everywhere and being nearly undetectable.

It it possible to give "Detect"-specific modifiers to Scanning sense instead?

Yes, but none of the ones he mentioned really apply. It already allows you to sense and know the shape of small objects. It does shape detection with a Sense roll already so Analyzing wouldn't apply. It has an "area" 120-degree arc out to (a base) 200 yards, so you don't need area either.

If you want to cut the range to, say 40 yards, that's Reduced Range 2 for -20% or Reduced Range 3 -30% for a 20 yard range. Imaging Radar can normally "see" through thin fabric. I'd suggest it's -10% or -20% if you just detect the surfaces. If you want a wider arc, take Extended Arc for +75% or +125% - both of which seem really high for what they give you. If your ability can be detected fairly easily (normally para-rader is nearly impossible to detect) that's probably a -10% nuisance. Another advantage of para-radar is the ability to work anywhere including underwater. If you can only use this ability in a normal atmosphere, that's likely another -20%.

[Thökk]

Originally Posted by naloth

What doesn't make sense about it? It functions like image radar but uses some pseudo-science mechanism to justify working everywhere and being nearly undetectable.


Yes, but none of the ones he mentioned really apply. It already allows you to sense and know the shape of small objects. It does shape detection with a Sense roll already so Analyzing wouldn't apply. It has an "area" 120-degree arc out to (a base) 200 yards, so you don't need area either.

If you want to cut the range to, say 40 yards, that's Reduced Range 2 for -20% or Reduced Range 3 -30% for a 20 yard range. Imaging Radar can normally "see" through thin fabric. I'd suggest it's -10% or -20% if you just detect the surfaces. If you want a wider arc, take Extended Arc for +75% or +125% - both of which seem really high for what they give you. If your ability can be detected fairly easily (normally para-rader is nearly impossible to detect) that's probably a -10% nuisance. Another advantage of para-radar is the ability to work anywhere including underwater. If you can only use this ability in a normal atmosphere, that's likely another -20%.

Can Para-radar bend, look behind the corners and see from any point and angle simultaneously within its radius?

If yes, then Para-radar does what I want and I didn't need to check any further.

[naloth]

Originally Posted by Thökk

Can Para-radar bend, look behind the corners and see from any point and angle simultaneously within its radius?

It should do around corners (out to its range limit). Increasing the angle from 120-degree coverage to 360-degree coverage was an enhancement I mentioned above.

Super Touch Sense (Para-Radar) [70]
- 360-degree coverage +125%
- 40 yard range -20%
- Can be felt -10%
- Doesn't work underwater -20%

It's expensive, but it makes you basically aware of everything going on within 40 yards that's not under some form of physical barrier.

[Thökk]

Originally Posted by naloth

It should do around corners (out to its range limit). Increasing the angle from 120-degree coverage to 360-degree coverage was an enhancement I mentioned above.

Super Touch Sense (Para-Radar) [70]
- 360-degree coverage +125%
- 40 yard range -20%
- Can be felt -10%
- Doesn't work underwater -20%

It's expensive, but it makes you basically aware of everything going on within 40 yards that's not under some form of physical barrier.

What do you think about Area Perception enhacement?

[naloth]

Originally Posted by Thökk

What do you think about Area Perception enhacement?

This?
PK Awareness 10 (Increased Range 50x, +50%; Extended Arc, 360°, +125%; Granted by familiar, -40%; Nuisance Effect, sensed by touch at Per-7, -5%; Psychokinesis, -10%; Requires Per Roll, -5%) [43]

I'm not quite sure what this is. It's leveled, which doesn't fit with other scanning senses, and granted by an unspecified ally/familiar. I'd also rule against that nuisance effect since it mostly requires a crit to spot. Not knowing what ability it's based on I'm can't be sure what the total range is either. Perhaps it's from a more recent supplement?

[Flowergarden]

Originally Posted by naloth

Super Touch Sense (Para-Radar) [70]
- 360-degree coverage +125%
- 40 yard range -20%
- Can be felt -10%
- Doesn't work underwater -20%

The only question is why it's para radar at all. If it doesn't work underwater and can be detected without super science?
Maybe stupid question. But from mechanical perspective it's Imaging Radar with a slight twist.

[Shimmin Beg]

Originally Posted by naloth

This?
(snip)

In context, Area Perception is an enhancement I mentioned, which comes from Powers: Totems and Nature Spirits, p. 5. Offered for Detect and Clairaudience, it means you can freely switch perspective to any point within range, or can observe everything within the range simultaneously at a penalty. Exactly how it works with Detect, which doesn't have a fixed range, is unfortunately not explained.

[naloth]

Originally Posted by Flowergarden

The only question is why it's para radar at all. If it doesn't work underwater and can be detected without super science?
Maybe stupid question. But from mechanical perspective it's Imaging Radar with a slight twist.

I'd accept that. I don't use imaging radar much so I hadn't noticed it was half the price.

Originally Posted by Shimmin Beg

In context, Area Perception is an enhancement I mentioned, which comes from Powers: Totems and Nature Spirits

I don't have that supplement so I'm not sure what that enhancement does.