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Old 05-14-2024, 11:19 AM   #1
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Realistically... neither one. The projectile loses energy (based on the energy required to penetrate the barrier) but also might lose stability or break apart. The first doesn't much matter when the layers are close together but will significantly reduce penetration against spaced barriers, the second can be important even against close layers and has the interesting effect that the order of your armor layers matters -- you want the hard armor on the outside, the soft armor on the inside.
One house rule I've seen proposed (possibly by Doug Cole) is to have armors like ballistic fiber reduce the damage from a bullet by a fraction of its DR if it fails to completely stop the bullet. Kevlar and it's kin tend to either stop a bullet or barely slow it.

As to the question of spaced armor, one effect is the probable reduction of armor penetration modifier for AP type ammunition. The hardened cap/core is destabilized and not hitting the rear layer the way it was designed to.
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Old 05-14-2024, 11:54 AM   #2
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The realistic answer to armor layering is "armor functions best if used in the way it was designed to be used". Typically the way rigid armor works is that you have a high hardness outer layer that will damage or destroy the penetrator and spread the impact, and then a softer inner layer that's there to absorb the energy and limit damage to the outer layer (something very hard, without the softer layer, will often shatter, which will probably do the job for the first impact but isn't much good against the second). In the case of steel plate, the hard/soft is achieved by hardening the outer surface of the plate and leaving the inner surface softer. You do get hard armor inserts that are only rated to provide protection if used in combination with a vest; in that case the vest is acting as the soft layer (and because it doesn't hold the plate together very well, tends to result in fairly ablative armor). In the case of personal armor you may also have a soft outer layer that's designed to capture shrapnel and ricochets.

An insufficient hard layer may let the penetrator through without a lot of damage, in which case it might go through multiple layers.
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Old 05-14-2024, 07:49 PM   #3
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As to the question of spaced armor, one effect is the probable reduction of armor penetration modifier for AP type ammunition. The hardened cap/core is destabilized and not hitting the rear layer the way it was designed to.
The problem with stating this is that while it'll work better than a single plate against threats up to its limit, the outer layer will get shot up by minor threats, which might be important if its the outer skin of a ship or aeroplane, and threats that are too great for the system will penetrate more readily than they would against a single plate. Also, non-capped projectiles will be quite happy with a 'thin plus thick' scheme compared to the same weight in a single plate.
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