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Old 02-26-2024, 12:17 PM   #7
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Default Re: Outlander cycle?
The Outlander, the Joseph Special, and the Hotshot (among others) were some of the first stock designs, and complete trash. Everyone driving them is long dead. I will say they were good in one sense, a new player could design something better right away.
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