FLGS sales?

[Bill_in_IN]

Originally Posted by stefanj

One way to bring attention to TFT at your FLGS:


Offer to run demo games. Bring in Melee. Run a few sparring sessions. Add Wizard stuff.

I'm hoping to do that.

[TerribleTony]

Originally Posted by stefanj

One way to bring attention to TFT at your FLGS:


Offer to run demo games. Bring in Melee. Run a few sparring sessions. Add Wizard stuff.

But the shop can’t get the games from the distributor (Alliance.) I don’t want to pay $40-$50 for $30 of games to introduce it to people who can’t even buy it at the shop we’re playing it in.

Into the labyrinth expects you to already have Melee and Wizard, and while nice, the Legacy Edition is $119 solution to the problem of buying a $15 game.

[Axly Suregrip]

Originally Posted by TerribleTony

Into the labyrinth expects you to already have Melee and Wizard

You don't need Melee or Wizard if you have ITL. All the rules in those two are in ITL.

[Shostak]

Originally Posted by TerribleTony

But the shop can’t get the games from the distributor (Alliance.) I don’t want to pay $40-$50 for $30 of games to introduce it to people who can’t even buy it at the shop we’re playing it in.

Into the labyrinth expects you to already have Melee and Wizard, and while nice, the Legacy Edition is $119 solution to the problem of buying a $15 game.

If your FLGS is less than F toward getting TFT products, just get them elsewhere, like direct from Warehouse 23. Your pals can pick up Melee for FREE there.

[TerribleTony]

Originally Posted by Axly Suregrip

You don't need Melee or Wizard if you have ITL. All the rules in those two are in ITL.

Are they? They need to update its description then…

“This book covers roleplaying, character creation and experience, and advanced magic and combat rules for players who already have Melee and Wizard.”

[Shostak]

Originally Posted by TerribleTony

Are they? They need to update its description then…

“This book covers roleplaying, character creation and experience, and advanced magic and combat rules for players who already have Melee and Wizard.”

The quote is not incorrect, but it neglects mentioning that the advanced combat and magic sections include the basic combat and magic rules in Melee and Wizard.

[Bill_in_IN]

Originally Posted by Shostak

The quote is not incorrect, but it neglects mentioning that the advanced combat and magic sections include the basic combat and magic rules in Melee and Wizard.

I agree.

There may be a disconnect when the new Legacy ITL (TFT) was written. It seems the the original Melee and Wizard games have remained mostly unchanged from the Classic TFT days. One thing that I do like about Legacy ITL is that it combined the Classic Advanced Melee, Advanced Wizard, and ITL into one book. However, it seems that a few things can go a little unsettled/unclear when such a transformation occurs.

[Axly Suregrip]

SJGames needs to change that quote on the back cover of ITL.

The old ITL's cover had a lot more about how Melee & Wizard were needed. It this this was an attempt to summarize that. But since the new "Legacy ITL" includes all of Advanced Melee and Advanced Wizard (thus everything in Melee and Wizard and then some), this statement is not needed.

If you just buy the current ITL (what others here refer to as Legacy ITL) you will have all the rules to play. There are some nice additional products to get (adventures, megahex maps, map tiles, counters, etc) but ITL is the core & only necessary piece.

[JohnPaulB]

I own a bookstore and have had Melee and Wizards in the store since 2020. I've sold several of sets. I even sold an ITL.

As I recall, Wherehouse 23 originally sold me the sets at wholesale prices, but that was so long ago.

I currently buy the single sets off of Wherehouse 23 site and sell it at the price listed on the box. I take a loss, but get the game out there.

It actually takes a bit of promotion to get someone interested. This is known as handselling, but you need the right customer to pitch to.

Stefan has a good suggestion.

Originally Posted by stefanj

One way to bring attention to TFT at your FLGS:
Offer to run demo games. Bring in Melee. Run a few sparring sessions. Add Wizard stuff.

If you are in a Promote TFT frame of mind, buy a Melee box from W23, then invite friends/gamers and run a TFT game at the store and give away the Melee box as a prize. If you run enough exciting games, get the players to buy a set from the store (which might mean the store has to order them.)

Go to a game convention and at the open gaming tables lay out the game and put up a sign that says

Melee, Wizards and The Fantasy Trip played here.
Old School Dungeon Crawling is back!

and ask those who walked by if they remember player or hearing this old game.

[larsdangly]

Indeed, watching TFT being played, or even better jumping in on a first pickup game, has to be the way to sell this in person. The game play is so much more tactile and immersive and fun than basically any other table top fantasy game of its sort. I find it deeply weird when I run into modern D&D player who haven't heard of it - like, what are you doing with your life?