untalented weapon usage

[Bill_in_IN]

Originally Posted by Axly Suregrip

I looked these up in my old ITL and Advanced Melee. Unskilled use was consistently DX -4 through out and never 4/DX to hit.

In the crossbow section and the gun section, the DX -4 is mentioned again.

Furthermore, the Arquebus user used to get a DX +4 with the Guns talent.

So, I think these changes just never took the 4/DX into consideration. I suspect that a more accurate change for untalented use would be:
- crossbows just get the 4/DX (and skip the DX -4)
- guns get 5/DX (instead of DX -6 or what formerly used to be a 8 point difference)

It would be nice if an errata would clear this up since we are all just guessing.

That sounds reasonable, as is.

An alternate suggestion is that the unskilled gun adjustment could be 4/DX but no chance for reload due to lack of skill/knowledge. The gun would have to be loaded before they attempted to wield/use it. Or, it could take them twice as long to reload and aim it.