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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Ventura CA
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Sydney
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Do you know when they are introduced in THS?
I seem to remember reading (but I can't find) an article which said the author assumed NATO upgraded to new millimeter ammunition around 2050, but couldn't justify upgrading again because swarms. I assume real world we won't change mm this side of 2100! |
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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Pod guns came to Transhuman Space after they showed up in concept pictures for the US Army's "Future Warrior" initiative with a guy in a wetsuit and streamlined motorcycle helmet having a gun and mini-missile launcher mounted on his arm as if he were a BattleMech. The year after that the "pod" had sprouted a pistol grip and pod guns haven't been seen since.
We might already have changed standard ammo calibers with the new 6.8mm SAW if that works out. Migration to smaller calibers for rifle and machine gun ammo seems unlikely now though there are some interesting new pistol calibers under 9mm.
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Sydney
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Look 2100 might have been me trying it on, but now with even more countries going into NATO, I can only imagine the drama to change over to a new ammo standard any time soon. |
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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I don't believe anyone knows. Probably not even David. It's not really supposed to be a gunhead kind of place.
It's infested with other retro-ghosts of the 90s like P90-like PDWs too. The 5.7 caliber is sort of undergoing a minor renaissance in the US but it's for recreational shooting as a sort of high velocity .22 LR. No signs of military or home defense use. If you were to start a new version of Transhuman Space with pure 4e game mechanics and a divergence point of c.2030 there probably are no podguns or P- PDWs. 6.8mm SAWs and 7.5mm Brno maybe,
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Wielder of Smart Pants
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Ventura CA
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Pod guns make sense if you need your hands to be always free for some reason, and you are way less worried about flagging people than anyone who understands firearm safety in the real world. The latter may be from smart IFF safeties, but it's hard to explain the former. Why would you need free hands while shooting?
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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Even if you are using your hands ot anchor yourself in micro G wouldn't that point the guns in the wrong direction?
I could see putting the micro-missile launchers and maybe an electrolaser on a helmet that your were always wearing but bolting the pod to the side of your forearm makes little sense.
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Berkeley, CA
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The big problem with 5.7 is that it's a solution in search of a problem; the role the PDW was supposed to fill appears to have been filled by the M4 carbine.
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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It's just as well. The P90 (or more specifically its' SS190 cartridge) was focused on armor penetration which it achieved at a relatively high cost in general utility. Without the AP bullets of the SS190 it really does look like a high velocity .22 LR (or at least a .22WMR).
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