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Old 02-07-2023, 03:43 PM   #12
Axly Suregrip
 
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Default Re: ITL Errata

Great post Steve. Many good points.

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But proposing option (g) be renamed is a solidly good idea -- sure the text says "or you can crawl" but that's sometimes forgotten. Better to name it after everything it lets you do.
I agree with the above. I missed that the first time.

I am also reconsidering my initial reaction. Can a prone figure crawl into HTH onto another prone figure? If not, then Shostak's right on all points. Well except needing to wait to attempt HTH disengaging. Faster DX should try to get out before getting hit.



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My big problem is with (106) where it reads:
"A figure engaged with more than one enemy may disengage from some while remaining engaged with others, but may never attack on the turn it disengages (except HTH) [emphasis mine]".
What's the "except HTH" supposed to mean in this context? Attacking or disengaging are mutually exclusive in the same turn, be it regular or HTH combat. So there cannot be an exception, and the text here cannot be correct.
Good catch. I think what they were trying to say is that when you disengage from a multi-person HTH you don't have the option to stay engaged in HTH with some of your foes. But even so, it is poorly worded and unnecessary.


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Another problem, this time on (103):
"(p) STAND UP. Same as (g) above."
But (p) can't be exactly the same as (g), because (g) let's you crawl or stand. Or are we ready to allow an engaged, prone figure to just crawl away from an attack? Well, maybe we are when it's after the attack, and it usually would be because the attacker is at +4. I don't think disengaging by crawling was ever intended, but I suppose I might be wrong about that. My guess is that the crawling part of (g) just wasn't considered when the text for (p) was written.
I agree with you that being able to crawl away from being engaged violates the definition of being engaged. Option (p) should strictly be "Stand up" instead of "Same as (g) above."
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