[Ultra Tech] Increased Firearm Power with TL

[Fred Brackin]

Originally Posted by Ulzgoroth

A better formulation of the question might have been 'how many people use a modern-strength .45-size cartridge',.

You would need to add together the sales for the .454 Casull and the Grizzly LAR. This isn't counting all the wildcats and rarities between the .45 ACP and the .50 rounds like the Desert eagle .50 AE and the S&W .500 magnum.

It's totally ignoring al the kinds of .44 Magnum rounds too.

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by Fred Brackin

You would need to add together the sales for the .454 Casull and the Grizzly LAR. This isn't counting all the wildcats and rarities between the .45 ACP and the .50 rounds like the Desert eagle .50 AE and the S&W .500 magnum.

It's totally ignoring al the kinds of .44 Magnum rounds too.

Uh, I think all those wildcats and rarities and .50 rounds put together could be described with only a little unfairness as having zero usage.

.44 magnum is, of course, quite a bit smaller than .45 (it's actually under .43"), but might actually have noticeable popularity?

[Fred Brackin]

Originally Posted by Ulzgoroth

Uh, I think all those wildcats and rarities and .50 rounds put together could be described with only a little unfairness as having zero usage.

.44 magnum is, of course, quite a bit smaller than .45 (it's actually under .43"), but might actually have noticeable popularity?

http://knowledgeglue.com/what-are-th...ers-in-the-us/

......seems to have .44 Magnum as the 15th most popular caliber in the US with 1.4% of the market. With 2018 numbers of 8.1 billion rounds sold in the US that should come to over 100 million rounds sold in one year.

That probably counts as significant to the ammo makers. Even some of those calibers you want to count as "zero" are probably significant.

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by Fred Brackin

http://knowledgeglue.com/what-are-th...ers-in-the-us/

......seems to have .44 Magnum as the 15th most popular caliber in the US with 1.4% of the market. With 2018 numbers of 8.1 billion rounds sold in the US that should come to over 100 million rounds sold in one year.

That probably counts as significant to the ammo makers. Even some of those calibers you want to count as "zero" are probably significant.

So the statistics you came up with are about firearm sales, not ammo sales, and it's risky to assume that those have the same proportions...

But also, the extended chart shows the first even 20th century loading larger than .44 magnum (which is somehow .50 BMG!) having sales less than a fifth of .44 magnum. The rounds you actually talked about start just above a tenth. Of the 1.4%. I'm comfortable calling that negligible use. (.50 BMG of course has plenty of military use, but I don't think that's what we're talking about here.)

(Also, why is "significant to ammo makers" a thing I'm supposed to care about?)

[Rupert]

Originally Posted by Fred Brackin

http://knowledgeglue.com/what-are-th...ers-in-the-us/

......seems to have .44 Magnum as the 15th most popular caliber in the US with 1.4% of the market. With 2018 numbers of 8.1 billion rounds sold in the US that should come to over 100 million rounds sold in one year.

That probably counts as significant to the ammo makers. Even some of those calibers you want to count as "zero" are probably significant.

That seems to be based on gun sales, not ammo sales. I expect that they won't be quite the same - if nothing else most people with .454 Casulls (#48) and the Weatherbys probably won't be putting that many rounds through them each year.