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Old 07-20-2022, 07:57 PM   #11
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Actually, there are GURPS 4E templates for other races. They are in GURPS Prime Directive:

===United Federation of Planets===
Vulcans [70]; Humans [0]; Rigellians [11]; Cygnans [16]; Alpha-Centaurans [50 female /24 male]; Prellarians [35]; Deians [37]; Mynieni [67]; Brecon [45]; Arcturians [35]; Andorians [50]; Tellarites [27];
===Klingon Empire===
Ethnic Klingon Warriors [44]; Dunkars [19]; Slirdarians [-6]; Hilidarians [41]; Cromargs [34]; Zoolies [14]; Yitlians [23];
===Romulan Star Empire===
Romulans [33]
===Kzinti Hegemony===
Kzintis [35 males/23 females]
===The Confederation of the Gorn===
Gorns [18]; Skoleans [-2]
===Independent groups===
Tholians [101]; Orions [21 male/13 female]; Hydrans [10];
===Lyran Star Empire===
Lyrans [43]; Ranel [10]; Phelen [40]
===The Interstellar Concordium (ISC)===
Veltressai [79]/ Veltressai quad [136]; Q'Naabians [2]; Pronhoulites [43]; Rovillians [81]; Korlivilar [111]
===More Independent groups===
Seltorians [-100 queen/30 sages/ 21 workers/experts 65]; Jindarians [141]; Vudar [65]; Paravian [17], Carnivon [48]
You are aware that Qoltar specifically asked for species not in the SFU, correct?
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Old 07-20-2022, 09:27 PM   #12
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Where was the Edosian?

I didn't see a separate or isolated character description...or race description.

- Ed C.
He's in the back of the adventure .pdf, there's six pregenerated characters. He's listed there with his racial traits.
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Old 07-20-2022, 09:41 PM   #13
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You are aware that Qoltar specifically asked for species not in the SFU, correct?
Thank you for reinforcing what I said.

Yeah I try to keep the SFU Battles universe as far away from my game campaign as possible - like with a ten meter pole.

Since the majority of my players have watched "Star Trek: Discovery", or have sampled "Strange New Worlds" I want to stick with Star Trek races that are 'canon' and have been seen onscreen.

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You know about Memory Alpha, right?

MA on Saurians (doesn't mention any claws, and shows a human-like hand in the cartoon picture, anyway. The one here however has a long nail, maybe a short claw.)
Yea, I've known about them for years - since I ran the first version of this campaign idea back in 2009 to 2013.

However, Memory Alpha does not have GURPS Templates or advice.
..Or helpful hints for running combat when the Gm feels really rusty - I was hoping for more of that sort of thing.

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Thank you for reinforcing what I said.

Yeah I try to keep the SFU Battles universe as far away from my game campaign as possible - like with a ten meter pole.
"Prime Directive is a roleplaying game set in the Star Fleet Universe. Available for several RPG systems, it is based on the history and background seen in the classic board game Star Fleet Battles from the same publisher." (pg 15 of the 2005 4e edition).

As you mentioned GCA uses Prime Directive for its templates of Vulcan, Andorians, and Tellarites. So by using those templates you are kind of stuck with SFU's take on those races.
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Yeah I try to keep the SFU Battles universe as far away from my game campaign as possible - like with a ten meter pole. - Ed C.
I am a SFB player from way back...(which is nominally based on the TOS Technical Manual)

In setting agnostic terms tho...if a Battlecruiser is boarding a Destroyer...unless something happens to allow the DD to break off...the DD is a couple of millimeters away from being captured. Normally a combat between a CA and a DD would be clubbing baby seals territory...if the battle has progressed to where the DD is shields down and boarding parties aboard...well in most settings I am aware of a line cruiser has more marines and crew than a line destroyer...never mind racial idiosyncrasies.

I am sure the GM has a plan around this...but since you mentioned a touch of rust I thought I would mention with the disparity between the combatants there are a lot of ways this could go sideways on the Feds...in a hurry.
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I am a SFB player from way back...(which is nominally based on the TOS Technical Manual)

In setting agnostic terms tho...if a Battlecruiser is boarding a Destroyer...unless something happens to allow the DD t

I am sure the GM has a plan around this...but since you mentioned a touch of rust I thought I would mention with the disparity between the combatants there are a lot of ways this could go sideways on the Feds...in a hurry.
Okay, first off - I NEVER played "Star Fleet Battles" and when I was a teen had No interest in ever playing it. When you started using 'DD' and other such terminology it threw me for a second - til I remembered that 'DD' often refers to a Destroyer.

If I could use the old FASA ship combat rules in conjunction with GURPS I would
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If I could adapt the Heroclix ship miniatures rules to work with the GURPS campaign I might.

When I asked for "Help" in GM-ing a possible ship combat and very likely boarding action - I was referring to the GURPS mechanics and rules that were released over 10 years ago. (in "GURPS SPACESHIPS")

Somewhere around here I have a printout of that - but I haven't found it yet.

I may have to Reff those scenes based on the gist of what I remember, but I could still use some decent advice and help that does not refer to 'Starfleet Battles' the game in any way.

Would love to do it all as "GURPSy" as possible.

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Deltans - Bald race really only seen in "ST:TMP"
And a single episode of ST:TOS, and I believe, one of the newer ST movies.
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And a single episode of ST:TOS, and I believe, one of the newer ST movies.
They could not have been on "TOS" - they were not created or written until two years before the first movie. They were supposed to be part of the "Star Trek Phase II" series in 1978 - but that got quickly changed into pre-production for the first movie.

The Deltans I want in my campaign story because I think that "Strange New Worlds" might mention them .

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They could not have been on "TOS" - they were not created or written until two years before the first movie. They were supposed to be part of the "Star Trek Phase II" series in 1978 - but that got quickly changed into pre-production for the first movie.

The Deltans I want in my campaign story because I think that "Strange New Worlds" might mention them .

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Ah, you’re right. I was thinking of Balok, who is not Deltan, but from the First Federation.
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