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Old 06-28-2022, 03:57 AM   #1
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On closer look
All have Glock19* + vest
Extras, left to right:
1st
Blue field hat badge
Walkie
Bodycam
Mobile
Mystery pouch (?)
Truncheon
Pepper spray
Widget (?)
2nd
Black Field Hat Badge
Why is she wearing a different hat? (possibly "gender neutral" - at least that's what a GB police service are using it for, gender "transitioning officers may find it more comfortable")
Extras as 1st but no visible pepper spray.
*May actually have a .357mag revolver as she appears to have a speedloader pouch.
3rd
BFHB
Handcuff & pepperspray on vest.
His truncheon's butt is so chipped I thought it was a compass.
No Widget?
4th
BFHB
Cuffs on vest
No mystery pouch
Truncheon in speed draw position?

If I bump in to any on the street I'll have to ask about the pouch & widget (magnetic key?).
Can't even get an answer to
Are BFHB community policing, ie unpaid volunteers?
Probably need to send a letter
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Old 06-29-2022, 11:53 AM   #2
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On closer look
All have Glock19* + vest
A short read on NI police suggests that the pistols are Glock 17 rather than 19.
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Old 06-30-2022, 08:14 AM   #3
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A short read on NI police suggests that the pistols are Glock 17 rather than 19.
Ah, thank you, yes. I think I'm fixating on the magazine capacity and conflating it with model number (never mind actually getting even the mag cap wrong too).
PS yup, Antrim is in the part of Ulster still occasionally counted as part of the UK, so PSNI not gardai. And we still have punishment shootings, riots, bomb threats, IEDs under PSNI cars, fake emergency calls to target first responders... Much more peaceful than it was but even these unpaid volunteer community policing folk are armed & armoured.
PPS I wouldn't be surprised to discover not one of them has so much as a penknife. Weirdly knife phobic culture here - I'm weird in that I always carry this simple tool (must be under 3") and that fact makes some folk afraid. Heaven forfend I should go out and forget to leave my hori-hori off my belt.
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Old 06-30-2022, 05:15 PM   #4
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PPS I wouldn't be surprised to discover not one of them has so much as a penknife. Weirdly knife phobic culture here - I'm weird in that I always carry this simple tool (must be under 3") and that fact makes some folk afraid. Heaven forfend I should go out and forget to leave my off my belt.
Should that be the case, they might carry paramedic's shears instead of a knife. Good for cutting seat belts, ropes, or zip ties, but not so good as a weapon.

Given that IEDs are a potential threat, an inspection mirror which can be clipped to the end of an extendable baton, or the capacity to mount the body cam on the baton and send data to the officer's phone, might be standard kit.
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Old 06-30-2022, 11:33 PM   #5
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Some years ago on another forum, a Police officer from an English rural force gave a list of the stuff they carried in their cars, which might be a useful addition to the lists we're making here of carried gear.

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A couple of people asked me recently what is kept in the back of our patrol cars (allegedly for gaming purposes), so I thought I would share the answer here.

Unlike fire engines and ambulances, most patrol cars contain nothing interesting whatsoever. Ours have the following:
A toughbook or Mobile Data Terminal (which doesn't work and won't until they get round to selecting a new service provider)
A car radio with press-to-talk button on the steering wheel and a handset in the footwell of the passenger seat (replaces the AM/FM radio so no listening to music)
A glass hammer/seatbelt cutter
A-Z directory for the county
Roadside breath test device and spare tubes
Digital camera (for quick crime scene photos)
Shovel and broom (for clearing debris of roads)
First Aid kit
Major Incident Kit (scene log, search record, spare evidence bags, gloves, etc)
Fuel dipping kit (theft/misuse of agricultural diesel is common in our area)
Roll of police tape
"Authorities Aware" stickers (for putting on broken down/abandoned vehicles)
Traffic cones
Accident signs
Tape measure
Throwing line (for water rescues)
Fire extinguisher
Leg restraints

Most police officers also stick their own kit bag on the back seat. Mine contains:
Spares of every ticket book and form we use
Pens
A couple of bottles of water
More evidence bags and a couple of knife tubes
A spare box of latex gloves in my size
My black anti-puncture gloves
Jacket
Hi-vis jacket and trousers
Some extra first aid kit, plus Ibuprofen and Immodium
Up-to-date copy of Blackstone's Police Operational Manual (lots and lots of laws in a thick but easy to reference book)
Spare torch
Batteries
Flat hat
Snood
Woolly hat
Kindle Fire loaded with books, films and TV series (for seals and road closures)
Dog lead (for strays/lost dogs)
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Old 07-01-2022, 03:31 PM   #6
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Some years ago on another forum, a Police officer from an English rural force gave a list of the stuff they carried in their cars, which might be a useful addition to the lists we're making here of carried gear.
For really rural areas, possibly add a horse bridle (for stray horses), some sort of large animal lead (for other stray livestock), and possibly wire cutters and a bow saw for cutting wood (useful for cutting tree branches which have fallen across the road). Snacks, a few trash bags, a spare emergency blanket/signal panel, and a pair of bolt cutters might be useful kit for any police car.

Perhaps add a discrete "relief bottle" if you're likely to be stuck in a place with no toilet facilities.
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