Re: when is there HP damage for avoiding urination (Quick and Dirty Enchantment)
Note that, even without paut talismans, paut is useful up to a certain point; while it isn't cheaper than slow and sure, combining it with Q&D can still be cheaper. Then again, if you're allowing alternate energy sources, Raise Cone of Power basically allows applying unskilled observers to Q&D enchanting. It's hard to use above 500 energy (for which you spend three hours on raise cone with 84 participants, then five hours on the Q&D; to get 600 you need to do it in two hours and thus 150 participants)
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