Which skills are worh raising really high?

[Farmer]

Originally Posted by kirbwarrior

But I've definitely seen situations where the player thinks they need to take a shot and the GM says "Okay, -25 from all these things." and the player rolls because sometimes you need a one in a million with your 28 skill.

Well, it's always a 1 in 216 unless the GM simply rules it impossible.

So long as it's fun, it's good, and certainly RPGs and GURPS support utterly cinematic and unrealistic action - nothing wrong with it :-).

[kirbwarrior]

Originally Posted by Farmer

Well, it's always a 1 in 216 unless the GM simply rules it impossible.

So long as it's fun, it's good, and certainly RPGs and GURPS support utterly cinematic and unrealistic action - nothing wrong with it :-).

The difference between a million and 216 is PC's built in luck. The same luck that forces them into deadly situations ;)

More seriously, I also wouldn't have any issue with saying "This should be impossible for your character because your effective skill is currently -4, but I am open to you spending Impulse Points to say otherwise".

[maximara]

Originally Posted by Farmer

Well, it's always a 1 in 216 unless the GM simply rules it impossible.

So long as it's fun, it's good, and certainly RPGs and GURPS support utterly cinematic and unrealistic action - nothing wrong with it :-).

Since 3-4 always succeed it would be 4 in 216 (1 in 216 for 3 plus 3 in 216 for 4)

[Farmer]

Originally Posted by maximara

Since 3-4 always succeed it would be 4 in 216 (1 in 216 for 3 plus 3 in 216 for 4)

Yeah. We usually play that effective negative skills need a 3, assuming the GM allows it at all.

A 1 in 54 chance of succeeding at anything is too high :-)

[maximara]

Originally Posted by Farmer

Yeah. We usually play that effective negative skills need a 3, assuming the GM allows it at all.

A 1 in 54 chance of succeeding at anything is too high :-)

Not in an Action setting. :-). Seriously, even a 1 defense succeeds 1 in 54 (Basic Set p 374).

Heck, Last Action Hero even make a joke regarding just how much damage "important" Action characters in movie could take.

[Varyon]

Originally Posted by kirbwarrior

*I didn't add Deceptive Attack to the list because I frankly can't recall if you can do that with ranged weapons. Otherwise, that's another giant penalty sink

Prediction Shots, MA121, are ranged Deceptive Attacks. They typically only work against Dodges, but in a cinematic campaign (like, say, one where characters may expect to need to snipe a target 100 yards away while on fire and falling out of a helicopter), I'd have no issue with having it work against Blocks (and Parries, if those are an option - indeed, that's how I'd expect an elite gunman to be able to take out a Jedi).

[kirbwarrior]

Originally Posted by Varyon

Prediction Shots, MA121, are ranged Deceptive Attacks. They typically only work against Dodges, but in a cinematic campaign (like, say, one where characters may expect to need to snipe a target 100 yards away while on fire and falling out of a helicopter), I'd have no issue with having it work against Blocks (and Parries, if those are an option - indeed, that's how I'd expect an elite gunman to be able to take out a Jedi).

Awesome, thanks. I think I'd allow that option to cinematic users (Gunslinger/Heroic Archer/Weapon Master) because it absolutely fits for them.