Modelling Equal Gender Appeal

[Plane]

One idea I was fiddling with, is if we for simplicity assume a pansexual/bisexual baseline to characters, we could establish different reactions to different sexes via some kind of zero-pt feature.

"mascusexual" for example = +1 to use sex appeal against masculine characters (your enthusiasm is genuine) but -2 to resist sex appeal attempts against you by masculine characters

"mascuapathy" = +2 to resist sex appeal attempts against you by masculine characters, but -1 to use Sex Appeal against them since your disinterest is harder to hide

Similar femisexual/femiapathy inverted for feminine characters.

Someone "asexual" could have both mascuapathy+femiapathy while someone "bisexual" could have both mascusexual+femisexual.

Your standard "gynephile" (a heterosexual male or lesbian) has mascuapathy+femisexual while your standard "androphile (homosexual male or heterosexual female) has mascusexual+femiapathy.

If a single tier of +1/-2 or +2/-1 isn't a steep enough difference you could just enough tiers of it to represent. IE maybe you could have up to 10 levels of either feature? Or 20 levels?

The reason I used 1:2 and 2:1 ratios is so we don't have people loaded up on "loves X" being able to easily seduce the apathetic.

At ten level caps you're looking +10 vs +20 for example

Originally Posted by malloyd

you are [not] rolling to convince the target to sleep with you. You are rolling to give them the option of choosing between sleeping with you or suffering a penalty equal to your margin of success to do anything else as long as the scene persists.

I kinda wish we had clearer time guidelines for these margin-based penalties than 'scene'. Not just in social engineering, but the same issue w/ "battle" for the Tactics rerolls in Martial Arts.

I always figured something like MoS seconds and to require new rolls to refresh the penalties duration or create a new period of usable rerolls.

Originally Posted by malloyd

It is entirely reasonable for the result of your massive cross-orientation Sex Appeal success to be the target still refuses to sleep with you and suffers massive penalties for it.

Doesn't free will like this only apply to PCs though? If it's an NPC you get guaranteed outcomes via Reaction Roll the GM is expected to follow out of fairness.

Originally Posted by whswhs

Impressive says explicitly that the reaction does not have a sexual aspect.

Further clarified in SE the bonus you normally get to sex appeal applies to Intimidation, I think?

[whswhs]

Originally Posted by Plane

Further clarified in SE the bonus you normally get to sex appeal applies to Intimidation, I think?

Yes. That seemed a logical extension.