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Old 01-30-2022, 01:47 PM   #27
Plane
 
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Default Re: should there actually be "indestructible" weapons?

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Originally Posted by Anthony View Post
A force blade doesn't have infinite DR or infinite HP (in fact, it has 0 hp). It's just not actually an object and doesn't get damaged by its DR being exceeded.
Should something even exist in GURPS terms if it's maximum HP is 0?

I could see assigning fractional HP for low-mass objects like house flies and mosquitos but not 0.

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Originally Posted by Joseph Paul View Post
There is no evidence that they meant for the blade to be penetrable and without DR there is no threshold to make that decision so your premise for this has hit a rocky shoal.
Even a million DR can be penetrated by ignores DR unless the DR is cosmic or hardened.

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And what is wrong with being 'unbreakable'?
I have no problem with this long as we don't confuse it w/ undestroyable.

B376's "break" when compared to B401's "Breaking a Weapon" which cites B483's "Damage to Objects" which mentions "Homogenous objects, such as
swords, bend or break, but might remain partially usable" on the same tier as merely a "severe malfunction" on the level of falling unconscious for living beings.

B484's roll at -1xHP on the other hand is more like destruction: "a sword
might shatter instead of merely bending or snapping" which is the "destroy" equivalent to 'death' for the living.

I'm thinking B376 is more like B483's result than B484's result.

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Originally Posted by Anthony View Post
There is no defined way of computing the DR of an arbitrary object (most weapons lack listed DR), and since a force blade is weight zero, it has zero hp (the projector has weight and hit points, but the blade does not).
One could argue that there is some negligible form of mass (as energy has) in the blade per E=MC2.

Does this mean batteries get slightly lighter when you use up their stored energy, I wonder? I figure on some low-perception per https://physics.stackexchange.com/qu...ged-discharged

So the amount of mass the force sword's battery loses when drained divided by the time that mass keeps the sword up could probably give you some sort of "mass existing in the sword in a given second" maybe?

This doesn't work well w/ continuous math but more in a discrete kind, like "mass expected which creates a sword for a 1-second period, then requires more mass from battery to create another 1-second period".
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