Pinning down a fix

[hcobb]

I just don't see the visualization of grappling outside of HTH. Are you really holding somebody whose center of mass is four feet from yours?

[phiwum]

That's a fair point, but the fact is that you can grapple someone without falling to the ground with him. People really do grapple while standing. This wouldn't be possible if Shostak restricted his rules to HTH.

So, take your pick:

(1) Due to the spacing rules of TFT, you are some distance away from one another when grappling, rather than sharing a hex or
(2) No one can grapple unless they and their victim are both prone.

Shostak's decided that (1) works for him. It doesn't seem stupid to me. The actual placement of pieces on a map shouldn't be taken too literally in any case and if you and I are in adjacent hexes, that doesn't mean that our center of masses are literally 4' apart. (Otherwise, not sure a halfling with a dagger is much of a threat at all. Let him swing and poke! His arms can't reach.)

[Shostak]

Originally Posted by hcobb

I just don't see the visualization of grappling outside of HTH. Are you really holding somebody whose center of mass is four feet from yours?

Yes.

Here's some video to help you visualize.

And here's another.

And another.