Steal attempt

[kotya]

Thanks Brf for your input,

Originally Posted by Brf

In this topic: http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=88524&page=2 in Post-12 Munchkinman states that the thief must specify which item they are trying to steal after discarding the card.

This was later overruled by Andrew:
http://forums.sjgames.com/showpost.php?p=1654409
http://forums.sjgames.com/showpost.php?p=1902124
Thief does not have to specify an Item before the die roll.

Originally Posted by Brf

In Post-13 Andrew states that the thief can try to steal a reloaded die, which the owner can play to prevent the theft.

That makes sense, but my question is specific and is about the situation where Reloaded Die is the only Item. That means, if it would be used to set Thief's die roll to 6 (accidentally or intentionally), there will be no Item to steal afterwards. Is it a legit play?

I believe it would be good to have an official answer here.

[Brf]

Originally Posted by kotya

Thanks Brf for your input,
That makes sense, but my question is specific and is about the situation where Reloaded Die is the only Item.
I believe it would be good to have an official answer here.

That link I gave, with post-13, covers that situation, since Andrew states , the Reloaded Die could turn an opposing Thief's successful theft attempt (even of the Reloaded Die) into a failure. It is also implied in the second link you gave above, where Andrew states the Reloaded Die can be used to foil the theft.

[Devin Lewis]

1. No. If there's no legal target, the ability cannot be used.

2. Sure. It's a legal target when you roll, but the Reloaded Die becomes available to use once you roll, so it can be used against you, making failure automatic.

[Mr_Draco]

So question,

- a Thief tries to steal a Reloaded Die and succeeds
- the other player uses the targeted Reloaded Die to change the roll to the failure.
- Thief then uses a Loaded Die to change the roll to a success again.

The Reloaded Die can't be taken as it is now in the discards but is the steal attempt considered a success and the Thief doesn't lose the level? Or because he doesn't get the targeted item, is it a failure even if his die roll was a success?

[Devin Lewis]

Maybe don't get into this situation in the first place?

The die roll determines success or failure. If the die result is a success, but the outcome ends without you getting an Item, you've still succeeded.