Bestial Disadvantage & Skills

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Originally Posted by Michele

I think you have the definition in that word, "civilized".

For instance, Intimidation is a social skill, but I wouldn't call it particularly civilized - and indeed, intelligent animals do rely on intimidation, including by codified behavior patterns. So an intelligent, albeit bestial, being, should have no problem trying to intimidate others.

Actually a cobra (IQ 2) would have intimidate - that is what the hood like back is for - to make it look larger then it really is.

Originally Posted by Michele

If this helps you, use primates as your touchstone. In certain places where they are in close contact with tourists, there are monkeys who know how to haggle for ransom (they steal cell phones and hand them back in exchange for food, and the bargaining can go on for a while)

The problem with this example is you are getting into IQ5 which not a good benchmark for IQ 4 or lower animals. The thing is animals can pick up on slight clues and appear to have skills they don't have.

Clever Hans case in point