Quick question about UC II and above.

[hcobb]

Figures on the ground (say after the throw) get no HTH defense roll. The exception from Multiple HTH Combat (ITL 117) applies to all downed foes.

[Axly Suregrip]

Originally Posted by hcobb

Figures on the ground (say after the throw) get no HTH defense roll. The exception from Multiple HTH Combat (ITL 117) applies to all downed foes.

Thanks for the reminder and correction. Yes, it is down gets no save. And from behind gets the 5 but not 6.

[phiwum]

Originally Posted by hcobb

Figures on the ground (say after the throw) get no HTH defense roll. The exception from Multiple HTH Combat (ITL 117) applies to all downed foes.

Ah thanks. I had originally written that and couldn't find evidence it was so. I went back to edit my post to change it to match HTH initiation from the rear.

Makes perfect sense. Hard to prevent entry when downed.

By the way, a downed character is facing rear in all sides. Do people allow backpacks/slung shields to stop one hit in those cases? As a player pointed out, someone falling down due to a hit is hardly certain to land face first, regardless of whether his stance makes the to-hit roll effectively rear-facing.

[Axly Suregrip]

Originally Posted by phiwum

By the way, a downed character is facing rear in all sides. Do people allow backpacks/slung shields to stop one hit in those cases? As a player pointed out, someone falling down due to a hit is hardly certain to land face first, regardless of whether his stance makes the to-hit roll effectively rear-facing.

I don't allow slung backpack/shield to help when the character is down. It is rear from all sides to explain the DX bonus.

[phiwum]

Thanks.

(That's all I wanted to say. This parenthetical is to pad the length to at least ten characters, which it certainly has done...

Overkill, really. Should have stopped dozens of characters ago.)

[hcobb]

Note also "A figure may move into a hex with a fallen, unconscious or dead figure
and stop." -ITL 104

The UC is simply allowing you an additional hex of move.

[Skarg]

Originally Posted by hcobb

The UC is simply allowing you an additional hex of move.

Well, it's letting you move after a successful unarmed throw during the action phase, only. You had to move 1/2 MA or less to do that, so the only way I'd think of this as "allowing you an additional hex of move" is "an additional hex after moving 1/2 MA and making a successful flow". Not so simple.

[phiwum]

Originally Posted by Skarg

Well, it's letting you move after a successful unarmed throw during the action phase, only. You had to move 1/2 MA or less to do that, so the only way I'd think of this as "allowing you an additional hex of move" is "an additional hex after moving 1/2 MA and making a successful flow". Not so simple.

It's also a special move. After the move, you're in HTH, so you're engaged on the ground. It doesn't let you just stand above the fallen man.