Quick question about UC II and above.

[Axly Suregrip]

I also agree with the consensus that both the -1 DX and -1 damage apply to all melee attacks.

I am uncertain about 2 hex jabs.

Also keep in mind the evade can only be done by someone with both hands empty and armor no heavier than Cloth. As with all UC abilities.

It is these two restrictions to UC skills that make them pointless for me. A character with a high level of UC ability can be very dangerous but it is a long way to get there. In the meantime you are a low damage dealing and thin armored fighter. Brawling seems more useful if you are concerned you may not draw your dagger in time in HTH.

[phiwum]

Originally Posted by Axly Suregrip

I also agree with the consensus that both the -1 DX and -1 damage apply to all melee attacks.

I am uncertain about 2 hex jabs.

Also keep in mind the evade can only be done by someone with both hands empty and armor no heavier than Cloth. As with all UC abilities.

It is these two restrictions to UC skills that make them pointless for me. A character with a high level of UC ability can be very dangerous but it is a long way to get there. In the meantime you are a low damage dealing and thin armored fighter. Brawling seems more useful if you are concerned you may not draw your dagger in time in HTH.

I have long thought that Brawling is more useful that UC for PCs, but I'm writing up non-PCs for whom UC makes sense. (Buncha monks.)

[Helborn]

Since the limitation on "adjacent hexes" only shows up in UCV, I would suggest that the GM has a choice - ignore it for UC V OR apply it for all UC levels. My personal choice (call it a house rule) is to ignore it since it does not appear in 4 out of 5 descriptions.
So, Evade applies to 2 hex jabs.

[phiwum]

I think it makes perfect sense for a martial arts expert to evade a jab.

And I've watched my share of Hong Kong movies, so I know stuff.

[Axly Suregrip]

I take it to mean Evade works against all melee attacks which the UC expert is facing. That is, it does not apply to HTH, thrown or missile; nor does it apply to attacks from flank or rear.

I find the wording to be much more likely to mean it is excluding HTH, then to mean it is excluding spear jabs.

So yes, UC evade is effective against jabs.

[phiwum]

That is how I read it now as well.

Thanks to all for their input.

[phiwum]

I have an additional question about U.C. II and above, this time about the throw ability.

Throw: You may “shield-rush” without a shield. Use the shield-rush rules, but if your target falls, you may immediately move on top of them to attempt HTH.

If I' playing right, when one attempts HTH successfully, they immediately roll an attack. Also, if the target is on the ground, HTH attempts fail only on a roll of five (six is a reroll).

Does this mean that a UCII user gets to immediately move into the hex of the fallen character and roll dice for an HTH attack (barring a role of five)?

Thanks.