[Psionics] [Space] Psi Trek - Worldbuilding - Page 45

Prince Charon · 07-29-2020, 07:02 PM

It looks like 3 is winning, but I'm not calling the vote yet. At some point in the next day or two, provided Real Life doesn't get in the way (I live in Florida, we're expecting weather), I'll call the vote, and if things haven't changed, put up a new vote that will probably be based on 3 (something related to Tholian castes, I think).

Prince Charon · 07-31-2020, 01:36 PM

Tholians question IV

What castes should the Tholians have? This isn't a numbered question, just list the castes, along with hopefully a description of each. A followup question may be needed, but that's for later.

Vikingv · 07-31-2020, 02:15 PM

Leaders - those who are destined to be in charge of all or part of a hive. Ambassadors also come from this caste

Lieutenants - those who will be in charge of small groups (less than 2 dozen)

Learners - those who will be schooled in a science - medics also come from this caste

Lifters - these are the individuals who are charged with fixing or repairing things.

Laborers - those who do unskilled labor. Their number has decreased with technological advances, but there is still need for them

Phantasm · 07-31-2020, 03:49 PM

Queens - the leaders of the hives, along with those intended to become heads of splinter hives (such as ship hives)

Scribes - the scientists and record-keepers of the hives

Warriors - as it says on the tin

Workers - includes technicians as well as menial laborers

Messengers - those meant to travel between hives relaying orders and intent from the ruling hive; also used to communicate with non-Tholians

Clerics - the religious caste among Tholians, often advisors to the Queens and Messengers

Medics are few and far between, as Tholian religious teachings are to destroy those too injured to continue, returning them to the sacred rocks. However, they do exist to care for those suffering only minor wounds.

ericthered · 07-31-2020, 06:06 PM

They should have castes better suited for a low-tech environment, clumsily adapted to the ultra-tech environment:

Soldiers
Hunters (militaristic, but more scouts/skirmishers)
Laborers (big and strong)
Artisans
Caretakers (for the young and the sick. could end up in many service rolls)
Queens/Reproductive

a hive's personality is effected by the balance, and any tholian can conceivably be used for any job.

Emerald Cat · 08-01-2020, 10:37 AM

I second ericthered's caste system. While societies may be able to adapt over time, physical evolution is usually a slower process.

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Originally Posted by ericthered

They should have castes better suited for a low-tech environment, clumsily adapted to the ultra-tech environment:

Soldiers
Hunters (militaristic, but more scouts/skirmishers)
Laborers (big and strong)
Artisans
Caretakers (for the young and the sick. could end up in many service rolls)
Queens/Reproductive

Anders · 08-01-2020, 11:02 AM

Unless they have access to genetic engineering. We know that humans had it in the 20th-21st century (the eugenics war), so Tholians may well have it too.

Prince Charon · 08-03-2020, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Anders

Unless they have access to genetic engineering. We know that humans had it in the 20th-21st century (the eugenics war), so Tholians may well have it too.

Should I do a question about whether the Tholians genetically engineered new castes, before I start working on an answer post for question IV, or should I go straight to the answer post?

ericthered · 08-03-2020, 01:26 PM

Well, one theme of star trek seems to be that genetic engineering rarely turns out well, but that may just be limited to humans... or at least humanoids.

doctorevilbrain · 08-03-2020, 02:18 PM

I don't know what genetic engineering has to do with Tholians, they're crystalline.

07-29-2020, 07:02 PM	#441
Prince Charon Join Date: Dec 2012	Re: [Psionics] [Space] Psi Trek - Worldbuilding It looks like 3 is winning, but I'm not calling the vote yet. At some point in the next day or two, provided Real Life doesn't get in the way (I live in Florida, we're expecting weather), I'll call the vote, and if things haven't changed, put up a new vote that will probably be based on 3 (something related to Tholian castes, I think). __________________ Warning, I have the Distractible and Imaginative quirks in real life. "The more corrupt a government, the more it legislates." -- Tacitus Five Earths, All in a Row. Updated 12/17/2022: Apocrypha: Bridges out of Time, Part I has been posted.

07-31-2020, 01:36 PM	#442
Prince Charon Join Date: Dec 2012	Re: [Psionics] [Space] Psi Trek - Worldbuilding Tholians question IV What castes should the Tholians have? This isn't a numbered question, just list the castes, along with hopefully a description of each. A followup question may be needed, but that's for later. __________________ Warning, I have the Distractible and Imaginative quirks in real life. "The more corrupt a government, the more it legislates." -- Tacitus Five Earths, All in a Row. Updated 12/17/2022: Apocrypha: Bridges out of Time, Part I has been posted.

07-31-2020, 02:15 PM	#443
Vikingv Join Date: May 2020	Re: [Psionics] [Space] Psi Trek - Worldbuilding Leaders - those who are destined to be in charge of all or part of a hive. Ambassadors also come from this caste Lieutenants - those who will be in charge of small groups (less than 2 dozen) Learners - those who will be schooled in a science - medics also come from this caste Lifters - these are the individuals who are charged with fixing or repairing things. Laborers - those who do unskilled labor. Their number has decreased with technological advances, but there is still need for them __________________ I own and use 3e rules. I am not versed in 4e rules

07-31-2020, 03:49 PM	#444
Phantasm Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: On the road again...	Re: [Psionics] [Space] Psi Trek - Worldbuilding Queens - the leaders of the hives, along with those intended to become heads of splinter hives (such as ship hives) Scribes - the scientists and record-keepers of the hives Warriors - as it says on the tin Workers - includes technicians as well as menial laborers Messengers - those meant to travel between hives relaying orders and intent from the ruling hive; also used to communicate with non-Tholians Clerics - the religious caste among Tholians, often advisors to the Queens and Messengers Medics are few and far between, as Tholian religious teachings are to destroy those too injured to continue, returning them to the sacred rocks. However, they do exist to care for those suffering only minor wounds. __________________ "Life ... is an Oreo cookie." - J'onn J'onzz, 1991 "But mom, I don't wanna go back in the dungeon!" The GURPS Marvel Universe Reboot Project A-G, H-R, and S-Z, and its not-a-wiki-really web adaptation. Ranoc, a Muskets-and-Magery Renaissance Fantasy Setting Last edited by Phantasm; 07-31-2020 at 03:53 PM.

07-31-2020, 06:06 PM	#445
ericthered Hero of Democracy Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: far from the ocean	Re: [Psionics] [Space] Psi Trek - Worldbuilding They should have castes better suited for a low-tech environment, clumsily adapted to the ultra-tech environment: Soldiers Hunters (militaristic, but more scouts/skirmishers) Laborers (big and strong) Artisans Caretakers (for the young and the sick. could end up in many service rolls) Queens/Reproductive a hive's personality is effected by the balance, and any tholian can conceivably be used for any job. __________________ Be helpful, not pedantic Worlds Beyond Earth -- my blog Check out the PbP forum! If you don't see a game you'd like, ask me about making one!

08-01-2020, 11:02 AM	#447
Anders Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden	Re: [Psionics] [Space] Psi Trek - Worldbuilding Unless they have access to genetic engineering. We know that humans had it in the 20th-21st century (the eugenics war), so Tholians may well have it too. __________________ “When you arise in the morning think of what a privilege it is to be alive, to think, to enjoy, to love ...” Marcus Aurelius Author of Winged Folk. The GURPS Discord. Drop by and say hi!

08-03-2020, 01:26 PM	#449
ericthered Hero of Democracy Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: far from the ocean	Re: [Psionics] [Space] Psi Trek - Worldbuilding Well, one theme of star trek seems to be that genetic engineering rarely turns out well, but that may just be limited to humans... or at least humanoids. __________________ Be helpful, not pedantic Worlds Beyond Earth -- my blog Check out the PbP forum! If you don't see a game you'd like, ask me about making one!

08-03-2020, 02:18 PM	#450
doctorevilbrain Join Date: May 2009	Re: [Psionics] [Space] Psi Trek - Worldbuilding I don't know what genetic engineering has to do with Tholians, they're crystalline.