Combat Modifiers and AdjDX

[Axly Suregrip]

I know this is off topic from the OP but we did run down this tangent. Here is all the evidence for believing Facing does affect thrown weapon attacks:

A) Missile weapons section specifically mentions not getting a facing bonus while the Thrown weapons section does not. Further more the Thrown weapons section states it is exactly like a regular attack except for the DX adjustment for range.

In ITL:

p 114 Thrown Weapons section "A thrown-weapon attack is treated exactly like a regular attack, but there is a DX adjustment of..."

p 115 Missile Weapon section "Missile weapons never get a bonus for the target’s facing."

p 114 Thrown Weapons section do NOT contain a statement



B) Missile and Thrown attacks or weapons are always both mentioned. Here is a list of every place it mentions both. That is, they do not mention only Missile weapons/attack to every mean both:

p 20 Dispel Missiles spell "Dispels any missile spells (or missile or thrown weapons)..."

p 20 ditto for the Turn Missiles spell

p 23 ditto for the Reverse Missiles spell

p 25 Flight spell "-4 for attacks with physical thrown or missile weapons"

p 63 mutilation "reduce your DX by 4 for thrown and missile weapons"

p 92 against Dragonets "DX -8 for missile or thrown weapon attack."

p 102 Force Retreats "Magical attackes, missile and thrown weapons, etc., do not allow you to force a retreat."

p 104 Flight "Missile/thrown weapon/missile spell fire at targets overhead..."

p 107 near top "There are several different types of physical attack: regular, thrown-weapon, missile-weapon, hand-to-hand, jabbing with a pole weapon"

p 107 Rolling for Hit section "Attacks occur in order of adjDX counting everything but missile and thrown weapon range;"

p 115 Missile Weapons section "The DX adjustments for missile and thrown weapon distance are not considered when determining which figure attacks first."

p 116 Hitting Your Friends section mentions both.

p 116 Oversized Targets mentions both twice.

p 116 Sheltering behind bodies affects "missile/thrown attack" and "any figure making a missile or thrown weapon attack" mentions both twice

p 117 Attacking into HTH "If a missile or thrown weapon is aimed at a pile of figures…"

p 117 Defending and Dodging section, "Dodging in effective only against missile spells (and thrown and missile weapons)."

p 119 Height section mentions both

p 119 Darkness section mentions both

p 120 Aimed Shots section mentions both

p 131 Mounted Combat Attacks section mentions both; twice

p 137 Images and Illusions section - mentions both

p 138 Disbelief by Animals section about images/illusions not using both missile or thrown weapons

p 139 ditto about illusions again. Both mentioned


C) Another place Missile weapons are mentioned without thrown weapons is the Missile Weapon attack option. Move only 1 space and fire the missile weapon. If you believe mentioning Missile weapons alone is the same as both missile and thrown weapon attacks, then is this how you handle Thrown weapon attacks? Does this mean you do not allow Thrown weapons from engage figures?


D) Death Test in the Hobgoblin room they like the engage one foe and throw at another foe. So clearly Thrown weapons are not handled by the "Missile Weapon Attack" option. But why would the hobgoblins throw at another foe? Why get the DX penalty when they have a foe near by? I always played them splitting up to get your team surrounded so they could throw into the backs of others. I know this is just speculation.