How are you handling stealth in combat?

[larsdangly]

Originally Posted by Tenex

I agree with 1 and 2. Those are the clear cut situations. So from ITL:

"(f) MISSILE WEAPON ATTACK. Move up to l hex and... fire a missile weapon... (h) CAST SPELL. Move one hex... and attempt any spell."

So it is possible to attack and engage in minimal movement. If you are in a good hiding spot, i.e. one you have previously successfully made a stealth roll in, could you shoot an arrow and then make a stealth roll to be "invisible" when the targeted creature turns to look your way? You wouldn't be moving from a "good" spot where you achieved earlier success. You would just be reapplying your skill to freeze as the targeted creature looked your way. I'm inclined to say yes, although if the targeted creature moved in your direction that would necessitate additional rolls.

To avoid this becoming too powerful and too much like invisibility I was thinking maybe the targeted creature could attack (if it had a ranged attack), but at a discount like you were blurred. The targeted creature clearly knows something is where you are, but can't see precisely due to your hiding in shadows, vegetation, whatever.

You can't shoot and then move back into cover on the same turn; movement precedes action, always. So, you have to wait until the next turn to return to your cover. If you don't win initiative on that second round, your foe would get to turn and see you before you hid

[JLV]

Originally Posted by larsdangly

You can't shoot and then move back into cover on the same turn; movement precedes action, always. So, you have to wait until the next turn to return to your cover. If you don't win initiative on that second round, your foe would get to turn and see you before you hid

What if you shoot out of the cover, without leaving it in the first place (that is shoot out of the brush/bush you are hiding behind or the (real) shadow you are concealed in?

[larsdangly]

In that case, I would just try to determine whether an opponent has a line of sight to you at the moment he or she is looking. If the shooter is viewed during the shot, then a line of sight must exist (assuming its aimed fire), and presumably the target will remember where he or she just saw you.

[JLV]

I'd think the better system would be to determine if anyone has a line of sight to you at the moment you shoot (as opposed to "when they are looking") -- they see the arrow and it's general point of origin, even if they can't see you personally. Otherwise, they simply know that it came "from over there somewhere" (being an arc of area from which it must of come, based on how it hit something).