Code of Honor (Honesty), point value?

[Flyndaran]

Originally Posted by jason taylor

Not entirely independent, because the actual law reflects what humans think it should be and some are as it happens just and moral while most desire others to behave justly and morally to them more then they desire that others behave thuggishly toward them.

People and societies often change MUCH faster than laws. And laws exist as defined singular objects, while nations are made up of millions of opinions and views.
There are countless partly enforced and completely unenforced laws still on the books.
Anyone on the internet knows just how common the idea that torture is a just and proper punishment for certain crimes or even merely the accusations of such.
So I simply cannot believe that most humans think very similarly except in more immediate and selfish terms. Don't hurt ME, don't steal from ME, etc. oh yeah to minimize hypocrisy don't do that to them either... unless they hurt ME or "mine".

[jason taylor]

Originally Posted by Flyndaran

People and societies often change MUCH faster than laws. And laws exist as defined singular objects, while nations are made up of millions of opinions and views.
There are countless partly enforced and completely unenforced laws still on the books.
Anyone on the internet knows just how common the idea that torture is a just and proper punishment for certain crimes or even merely the accusations of such.
So I simply cannot believe that most humans think very similarly except in more immediate and selfish terms. Don't hurt ME, don't steal from ME, etc. oh yeah to minimize hypocrisy don't do that to them either... unless they hurt ME or "mine".

The speaker said that they were independent. Whether or not that is true, the point is that there is overlap and the overlap is not coincidental.