Code of Honor (Honesty), point value?

[Sorenant]

Originally Posted by David Johnston2

Well that's just false. An Honest person obeys the law. That doesn't mean they are automatically supporters of everything the state does. It means that (if they fail their self control check) they will be limited to expressing their disgruntlement in ways that are legal. Admittedly that could be suicidal in an oppressive dictatorship but it is a 15 point disadvantage.

And what is and is not legal is a complicated issue. For example an Honest person [B]can[B] rise up in rebellion. All they have to do is decide that the current people in charge did not take charge in a lawful manner or that they are ignoring the laws in their orders. Honest people expect everyone to obey the law, even those who have the power to make laws. Furthermore, the Honest person must make the call when laws conflict as to which takes precedence. If the Honest person is from a nation that is a signatory to the Geneva Convention, it may very well decide that orders to commit atrocities are illegal. If the Honest person is also a religious person it may decide that God's law is the highest law.

One of the threads I mentioned in the first post is the one you goes into a lenghty discussion with Icelander regarding this disdavantage. Speaking of which, after all, does Superman have Honesty? He fights for what's right and is otherwise very law-abiding, that's his schtick, but he also causes property damages and engages in vigilante activities. Captain America also falls in it, he has his very honest code of honor that upholds the law but he's also often at odds with said law (ie fighting terrorists while technically being a terrorist himself under sokovia accord).