Does DFRPG convert damage adds to dice?

[tbone]

Say your maul delivers 3d+7 damage. Does that remain 3d+7, or can it convert to 5d?

I don't see any suggestion in the books for converting a big bonus into dice, so I believe the DFRPG way is to keep the above at 3d+7 (which means bonuses from Weapon Master, AOA, etc. stay based on 3d, not 5d). But let me know if I'm missing something. Thanks –

[Kromm]

Originally Posted by tbone

Say your maul delivers 3d+7 damage. Does that remain 3d+7, or can it convert to 5d?

I don't see any suggestion in the books for converting a big bonus into dice, so I believe the DFRPG way is to keep the above at 3d+7 (which means bonuses from Weapon Master, AOA, etc. stay based on 3d, not 5d). But let me know if I'm missing something. Thanks –

The Dungeon Fantasy Roleplaying Game doesn't talk about that option, as it's a little too math-geeky.

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Aside: Even in GURPS, you always convert final damage after all adds – flat or per-die. You never convert adds to dice and then add per-die adds to the new number of dice. This is one reason why the mechanic is a little cumbersome: You have to retain, for instance, 3d+7 somewhere, because +1 per die makes that 3d+10 (and then 5d+3, or 6d-1 if you prefer); if you choose to list 3d+7 as 5d, +1 per die doesn't suddenly make it 5d+5. This is most concisely presented on p. B269:

If a modifier is given "per die of damage," apply it per die of basic thrusting or swinging damage, before you convert adds to dice.

[Kromm]

The prohibition against converting adds to dice and then adding per-die adds to the new number of dice is for definiteness, not for stinginess! Suppose I have ST 21 (damage 2d/4d-1) and I use a maul (swing+5), for 4d+4 damage. I'm also a Weapon Master with that maul, and get +2 per die for that. And I'm making an All-Out Attack (Strong), and get +1 per die for that. Is my damage:

1. 4d+4, with the per-die adds making it 4d+16, converted to 8d+2?
2. 4d+4, converted to 5d, with all the per-die adds making it 5d+15, further converted to 9d+1?
3. 4d+4, with the per-die adds for Weapon Master making it 4d+12, converted to 7d+1, then the per-die adds for All-Out Attack making it 7d+8, finally converted to 9d+1?
4. 4d+4, with the per-die adds for All-Out Attack making it 4d+8, converted to 6d+1, then the per-die adds for Weapon Master making it 6d+13, finally converted to 9d+2?
5. 4d+4, converted to 5d, with the per-die adds for All-Out Attack making it 5d+5, converted to 6d+1, then the per-die adds for Weapon Master making it 6d+13, finally converted to 9d+2?
6. 4d+4, converted to 5d, with the per-die adds for Weapon Master making it 5d+10, converted to 7d+3, then the per-die adds for All-Out Attack making it 7d+10, finally converted to 9d+3?
7. Something else I forgot about?

This rule makes 1 the right answer – and, as you can see, the simplest and most intuitive one.

[tbone]

All righty. That's as expected, makes sense, and provides a definite clarification for all posterity. Thanks!