Weapon master advantage and modified weapons?

faitfull · 08-12-2017, 09:58 AM

It is still a throwing axe, no matter if its get a custom job right?

either way, if we look at helbarts and the like, they have multiple attacks modes, all benefitting from weapon master.... i wonder if this case is simular?

chandley · 08-15-2017, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by faitfull

It is still a throwing axe, no matter if its get a custom job right?

either way, if we look at helbarts and the like, they have multiple attacks modes, all benefitting from weapon master.... i wonder if this case is simular?

It is, but maybe not in the way you think. If you buy Weapon Master (Throwing Axe with Hammerhead) [20], you get the WM bonuses for whatever you do with a Throwing Axe with a Hammerhead. However, you mentioned you have Weapon Master (Throwing Axe) [20]. That doesn't apply, by RAW, to a Throwing Axe with Hammerhead. They are different weapons.

Weapon Master (Axes) [30] would apply to both, however.

So. Weapon Master (Unnatural Pollaxe) [20] applies to every damn thing on that pollaxe, however ridiculous, but doesn't help one bit with a normal pollaxe. Even though everything on a normal pollaxe is subsumed in the unnatural one.

Many GMs are at least a little lenient on this however.

Donny Brook · 08-16-2017, 02:08 PM

I say its still the same weapon.

If you didn't put the hammerhead on the back of the it, but you hit with the back of it anyway isn't it still the same weapon? If you do a pommel strike with the butt of the handle, isn't it still the same weapon?

malloyd · 08-16-2017, 02:41 PM

I'd draw the line for single weapon at does it change any of the weapon's statistics? Yes? Not the same weapon.

One key test is probably Weapon Master (thrusting broadsword). If this is different from Weapon Master (broadsword), well, sharpening the point is about the minimum possible change you could make to a weapon. If that's enough to change categories then there's no way adding anything extra does not.

faitfull · 08-16-2017, 08:13 PM

okay, thanks for all the answers

did not try to provoke anyone, just hoped it covered. Will have a talk with my GM and let him see our discusion, så he can make a fair ruling.

however, shold anyone have more to say on the matter, I would love to hear it.

and if either Krum or Pullover have anything to add, please o please do!

08-12-2017, 09:58 AM	#1
faitfull Join Date: Jul 2015	Re: Weapon master advantage and modified weapons? It is still a throwing axe, no matter if its get a custom job right? either way, if we look at helbarts and the like, they have multiple attacks modes, all benefitting from weapon master.... i wonder if this case is simular?

08-16-2017, 02:08 PM	#3
Donny Brook Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Snoopy's basement	Re: Weapon master advantage and modified weapons? I say its still the same weapon. If you didn't put the hammerhead on the back of the it, but you hit with the back of it anyway isn't it still the same weapon? If you do a pommel strike with the butt of the handle, isn't it still the same weapon?

08-16-2017, 02:41 PM	#4
malloyd Join Date: Jun 2006	Re: Weapon master advantage and modified weapons? I'd draw the line for single weapon at does it change any of the weapon's statistics? Yes? Not the same weapon. One key test is probably Weapon Master (thrusting broadsword). If this is different from Weapon Master (broadsword), well, sharpening the point is about the minimum possible change you could make to a weapon. If that's enough to change categories then there's no way adding anything extra does not. __________________ -- MA Lloyd

08-16-2017, 08:13 PM	#5
faitfull Join Date: Jul 2015	Re: Weapon master advantage and modified weapons? okay, thanks for all the answers did not try to provoke anyone, just hoped it covered. Will have a talk with my GM and let him see our discusion, så he can make a fair ruling. however, shold anyone have more to say on the matter, I would love to hear it. and if either Krum or Pullover have anything to add, please o please do!