Literary source for anti-psionics prejudice?

sir_pudding · 06-23-2017, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by David Johnston2

Slan are mutants. It's not a situation where everyone could learn to use woo-woo and yet there's a prejudice against those who do.

Ah, well "everybody is psionic" isn't very common at all. Usually it's a heritable talent or something. I didn't realize that everybody in Classic Traveller was a psi.

robkelk · 06-23-2017, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sir_pudding

Ah, well "everybody is psionic" isn't very common at all. Usually it's a heritable talent or something. I didn't realize that everybody in Classic Traveller was a psi.

At least in GURPS Traveller, "most Humans" have the potential for psionics. (So sayeth Alien Races 1, page 134.) I don't know about CT

thrash · 06-23-2017, 07:09 PM

"The Institute's comprehensive examination provides a measure of personal psionic strength... Each character has a basic potential ... Age constantly lessens this potential, however, unless training is undertaken to use it."

Book 3, p. 38 (1981 edition, but the 1977 version is identical). That this is not meant to apply only to PCs (cheers to the shade of Hans Rancke-Madsen) is indicated by:

"Some hirelings or citizens may have psionic training or ability (throw 12 to have any ability; then determine the actual ability). There is an equal chance that the non-character will be an informant or potential informant."

Ibid., p. 46. Note that this is plot-tastically high -- only one world in 108 even has a branch of the Psionic Institute by the RAW. But I take it as indicative that psionic abilities and training are widespread, despite the penalties associated with their use.

sir_pudding · 06-23-2017, 07:14 PM

I think "everyone is equally psionic" is the more unique thing then. Paranoia about telepathy in particular is definitely not so unique (even in 1977).

Mike Wightman · 06-24-2017, 05:06 AM

But it only applies to NPCs the player characters encounter...

Am I misunderstanding or are you trying to suggest that 1/36 of the entire population of the Imperium is a trained psionic?

thrash · 06-24-2017, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Wightman

Am I misunderstanding or are you trying to suggest that 1/36 of the entire population of the Imperium is a trained psionic?

You are misunderstanding. I specifically acknowledged that the raw result is ridiculous ("plot-tastically high") on the face of it.

Blue Ghost · 06-24-2017, 10:15 AM

Well, does the institute have to be on the "prime world" of a system? Can't it be on a moon, or some rocky Mars like world, or some body in the system other than what's listed on the map as "where people live"? I think that would explain the higher frequency of institutes.

Also remember that the rule is there as a guideline to help make such places hard to reach, but not impossible to find. Kind of like a Shao-lin monestary or similar place where your PCs (or NPCS) can go (or have gone) to learn the mysterious ways of "mentalists".

That was the vibe I picked up when I first read the rule way back in 81 or 79.

David Johnston2 · 06-24-2017, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by thrash

You are misunderstanding. I specifically acknowledged that the raw result is ridiculous ("plot-tastically high") on the face of it.

Player Characters are liable to run into more than their fair share of criminals, revolutionaries, spies, and other transients. They do not deal with a representative sampling of the Imperial population.

06-23-2017, 07:09 PM	#3
thrash Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: traveller	Re: Literary source for anti-psionics prejudice? "The Institute's comprehensive examination provides a measure of personal psionic strength... Each character has a basic potential ... Age constantly lessens this potential, however, unless training is undertaken to use it." Book 3, p. 38 (1981 edition, but the 1977 version is identical). That this is not meant to apply only to PCs (cheers to the shade of Hans Rancke-Madsen) is indicated by: "Some hirelings or citizens may have psionic training or ability (throw 12 to have any ability; then determine the actual ability). There is an equal chance that the non-character will be an informant or potential informant." Ibid., p. 46. Note that this is plot-tastically high -- only one world in 108 even has a branch of the Psionic Institute by the RAW. But I take it as indicative that psionic abilities and training are widespread, despite the penalties associated with their use. Last edited by thrash; 06-23-2017 at 07:17 PM.

06-23-2017, 07:14 PM	#4
sir_pudding Wielder of Smart Pants Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ventura CA	Re: Literary source for anti-psionics prejudice? I think "everyone is equally psionic" is the more unique thing then. Paranoia about telepathy in particular is definitely not so unique (even in 1977).

06-24-2017, 05:06 AM	#5
Mike Wightman Join Date: Aug 2004	Re: Literary source for anti-psionics prejudice? But it only applies to NPCs the player characters encounter... Am I misunderstanding or are you trying to suggest that 1/36 of the entire population of the Imperium is a trained psionic?

06-24-2017, 10:15 AM	#7
Blue Ghost Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Spinward Marches	Re: Literary source for anti-psionics prejudice? Well, does the institute have to be on the "prime world" of a system? Can't it be on a moon, or some rocky Mars like world, or some body in the system other than what's listed on the map as "where people live"? I think that would explain the higher frequency of institutes. Also remember that the rule is there as a guideline to help make such places hard to reach, but not impossible to find. Kind of like a Shao-lin monestary or similar place where your PCs (or NPCS) can go (or have gone) to learn the mysterious ways of "mentalists". That was the vibe I picked up when I first read the rule way back in 81 or 79. Last edited by Blue Ghost; 06-24-2017 at 10:19 AM.