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Old 04-20-2017, 12:06 AM   #15
Ulzgoroth
 
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Default Re: DF World: Do non-humans have their own countries?

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Originally Posted by Varyon View Post
Eh, I don't think it's too surprising, really. Hobbits basically live in an idyllic paradise, and those few who want a bit of adventure can find plenty (for a hobbit, at least) near the outskirts of the Shire. The outside world is in far worse shape, meaning there is a barrier - with the exception of the brief period of time between the end of The Hobbit and Frodo's departure in Fellowship of the Rings, there are monsters lurking about if you go too far afield, so what right-minded hobbit is going to leave? For those very few who do, Gondor is pretty far away (by my measurement, the closest border of Gondor is over 600 miles away from Hobbiton, and that's in a straight line).

Now, why hobbits only survived in the Shire* isn't ever addressed to my knowledge, nor why the Rangers apparently thought this small, insignificant community was worth dedicating so much manpower to protecting. Honestly, with how resilient and scrappy they are shown to be - once you get them out of their comfortable homes and give them some incentive, anyway - I would have expected more to have survived.

*Smeagol's folk seemed to live outside of the Shire, and were clearly some sort of hobbit, but I don't think we ever find out just how old Gollum is - his people may well no longer exist, and if so probably haven't existed for a very long time. Or, who knows, maybe they're the ancient ancestors of the Brandybucks.
Putting aside the question of whether an idyllic agricultural paradise is actually possible at the relevant tech level, you can't steady-state indefinitely in an idyllic paradise without doing some pretty weird things to preserve same. I'm not inclined to believe that hobbits have strict population controls.

The only way I can rationalize no hobbits venturing forth in search of better opportunities due to crowding is if hobbits are somehow going extinct for lack of offspring...while living in an idyllic paradise. Which would make the difficult question how there are any hobbits at all.
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