Ultra tech proximity rounds.

[Joseph Paul]

You know who I bet has some rules for this? Sir_pudding. Any one know how to pop marker smoke for him to call fire on for this?

[Jaware]

Crap.... O well I guess I'll just improvise.

I'll probably end up counting the degrees of sucess as degrees of failure and letting the shooter decide where they fall at in that area.

Like say you fire 4 rounds and it has recoil 1 and you suceed by 2. Meaning 3 rounds hit. I'll let the shooter determine where those 3 rounds hit within a 3 yard radius of the target. And then roll for scatter for the last one. Because it missed by "4" effectivly. It would fall outside the spots chosen.

Maybe that'll work. I don't know. I'll have to test it to make sure.

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by Jaware

Crap.... O well I guess I'll just improvise.

I'll probably end up counting the degrees of sucess as degrees of failure and letting the shooter decide where they fall at in that area.

Like say you fire 4 rounds and it has recoil 1 and you suceed by 2. Meaning 3 rounds hit. I'll let the shooter determine where those 3 rounds hit within a 3 yard radius of the target. And then roll for scatter for the last one. Because it missed by "4" effectivly. It would fall outside the spots chosen.

Maybe that'll work. I don't know. I'll have to test it to make sure.

By the rules, three rounds hitting means three rounds hitting, not being somewhere close. It's the last one that's not handled.

[Jaware]

Originally Posted by Ulzgoroth

By the rules, three rounds hitting means three rounds hitting, not being somewhere close. It's the last one that's not handled.

I agree. I'm just saying for terms of " I want to peper this area here with fragmentation damage centered on this area"

I can do that. Then if the user wanted all of them to drop on target X, he/she can. But they don't have to.

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by Jaware

I agree. I'm just saying for terms of " I want to peper this area here with fragmentation damage centered on this area"

I can do that. Then if the user wanted all of them to drop on target X, he/she can. But they don't have to.

Ah, yeah. A bit generous but interesting.

Was the 3 yard radius a function of something about the example, or just a constant value?

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by Joseph Paul

You know who I bet has some rules for this? Sir_pudding. Any one know how to pop marker smoke for him to call fire on for this?

There's currently a "Combat" Pyramid theme on the Wishlist and I'm currently working on an article that might address some of these concerns, at least for TL6-8 artillery. One of my goals is to provide a quick way to resolve damage to targets located within the sheaf.

That said, the regular scatter rules are much too short ranged for artillery fire, where a "direct hit" is defined as within 25 meters. The rules in the Using Artillery box in GURPS High Tech only worry about missed rounds on a critical failure, which is probably a really good way to approach the problem, unless you are adjusting fire in an urban area and worried about collateral damage or similar.

[Joseph Paul]

Would you have any thoughts on PCs surviving the beaten zone for that article?

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by Joseph Paul

Would you have any thoughts on PCs surviving the beaten zone for that article?

Well with artillery it's a "sheaf"; "beaten zone" is usually for suppression by MG fire anjd yes I am trying to streamline the rules so that you aren't rolling damage for multiple rounds in effect and fragments but rather can just resolve it with 2-4 rolls.

Note that surviving on-target fires for effect by even light mortars without cover is unlikely; at least not without significant injury..This is why digging in is important and also why the response to incoming is to hit the deck.

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

Note that surviving on-target fires for effect by even light mortars without cover is unlikely; at least not without significant injury..This is why digging in is important and also why the response to incoming is to hit the deck.

Of course, in GURPS we tend to want to be able to determine what that would do to a superhero, a dragon, a battle robot, and a vampire, not just what it would do to a human.